CTPP May 2002

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by Leigh.Oesterling＠dot.state.oh.us

I used the TIGER Reader extension for ArcView and found the same thing. It reads the 2000 UA, but labels the field UA90, and it truncates the last digit (gives only 4, should be 5) of the UA code. I loaded in the 1990 Urban Area .shp file as well, (downloaded from census website http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/ua1990.html yesterday) to be certain. The area I was looking at is a UA in 2000, but wasn't in 1990. So this confirmed that the TIGER Reader extension is reading in the UA 2000 boundaries, it just labels them UA90 (and drops the last digit of the code!). Thanks to everyone who has posted on this subject so far. It made my job much easier! Leigh Oesterling, Transportation Planner Modeling & Forecasting Section Office of Technical Services Ohio Department of Transportation (614) 752-5747 FAX (614) 752-8646 Leigh Oesterling Modeling & Forecasting Section Office of Technical Services Ohio Department of Transportation (614) 752-5747 FAX (614) 752-8646 "Wrafter, Eoin" <ewrafter(a)co.dutchess.ny.us> Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net 05/09/02 08:15 AM To: "Brian Lakeman" <Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org> cc: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion I agree Brian I too had someone do the conversion in ArcInfo and it matched the results from TIGER reader in ArcView 3.2. Although the field name is incorrect it appears the underlying data maybe correct. Eoin Wrafter, AICP Senior Planner Poughkeepsie-Dutchess County Transportation Council 27 High Street, 2nd Floor Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Phone (845) 486-3600 Fax (845) 486-3610 ewrafter(a)co.dutchess.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Brian Lakeman [mailto:Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:41 PM To: 'Banette Kritzky'; kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net; treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a few counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView and chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results matched up exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this? It appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even though the field is named incorrectly. Brian Lakeman Genesee Transportation Council -----Original Message----- From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net; treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b) after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000 census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually extracted the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention? This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out there trying to work through the same problems. Banette =================================== Banette Kritzky GIS Coordinator Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office 395 John Ireland Blvd St. Paul, MN 55155 (651) 296-0220 banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us >>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM >>> I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000. We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like to see the new boundaries before the Fall. Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file, considering the proliferation of ESRI products. Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director Southern Maine RPC 21 Bradeen St. Suite 304 Springvale, ME 04083 (207)324-2952 FAX -2958 treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.org www.smrpc.maine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org> To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion > So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a > third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the > Census site? > > Thanks, > Kendis > > > Kendis Willet > GIS Specialist > Metropolitan Interstate Committee > Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org

23 years, 2 months

[CTPP] UA conversion

by Chuck Purvis

Hi: The solution for us in getting our 2000 urbanized areas in ArcView shp format was to purchase (actually, upgrade to) the commercial third-party software TGR2SHP (version 4.2) from www.gistools.com. Very easy to use, especially for non-GIS folks like myself. As I understand it, this is the software that ESRI will (or perhaps eventually) use to create the urbanized areas for downloading on their www.geographynetwork.com site. I wouldn't recommend the older TIGER translators available on ESRI's site. They were built for TIGER/Line '97 and older! (Pardon the commercial plug.) cheers, Chuck Purvis *********************************************** Charles L. Purvis, AICP Senior Transportation Planner/Analyst Metropolitan Transportation Commission 101 Eighth Street Oakland, CA 94607-4700 (510) 464-7731 (office) (510) 464-7848 (fax) www: http://www.mtc.ca.gov/ Census WWW: http://census.mtc.ca.gov/ ***********************************************

23 years, 2 months

RE: [CTPP] UA conversion

by Leigh.Oesterling＠dot.state.oh.us

I used the TIGER Reader extension for ArcView and found the same thing. It reads the 2000 UA, but labels the field UA90, and it truncates the last digit (gives only 4, should be 5) of the UA code. I loaded in the 1990 Urban Area .shp file as well, (downloaded from census website http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/ua1990.html yesterday) to be certain. The area I was looking at is a UA in 2000, but wasn't in 1990. So this confirmed that the TIGER Reader extension is reading in the UA 2000 boundaries, it just labels them UA90. Thanks to everyone who has posted on this subject so far. It made my job much easier! Leigh Oesterling, Transportation Planner Modeling & Forecasting Section Office of Technical Services Ohio Department of Transportation (614) 752-5747 FAX (614) 752-8646 Brian Lakeman <Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org> Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net 05/08/02 03:41 PM To: "'Banette Kritzky'" <banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us>, kwillet(a)ardc.org, ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net, treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu cc: Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a few counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView and chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results matched up exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this? It appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even though the field is named incorrectly. Brian Lakeman Genesee Transportation Council -----Original Message----- From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net; treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b) after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000 census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually extracted the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention? This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out there trying to work through the same problems. Banette =================================== Banette Kritzky GIS Coordinator Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office 395 John Ireland Blvd St. Paul, MN 55155 (651) 296-0220 banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us >>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM >>> I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000. We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like to see the new boundaries before the Fall. Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file, considering the proliferation of ESRI products. Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director Southern Maine RPC 21 Bradeen St. Suite 304 Springvale, ME 04083 (207)324-2952 FAX -2958 treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.org www.smrpc.maine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org> To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion > So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a > third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the > Census site? > > Thanks, > Kendis > > > Kendis Willet > GIS Specialist > Metropolitan Interstate Committee > Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org

23 years, 2 months

[CTPP] DATA ALERT: Demographic Profiles from Census 2000 long form

by Nanda Srinivasan

The Census Bureau is currently releasing demographic profiles for states,counties, and places on a state-by-state basis. To access the data for your state, please visit: http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2002/demoprofiles.html Nanda Srinivasan

23 years, 2 months

[CTPP] UA changes and MPOs

by Garth Banninga

In viewing some of the Michigan UA boundaries, I've found that some current MPO modeled areas bleed into other UAs. For instance, a portion of the Holland model area is now in the Grand Rapids UA. Also, the Muskegon UA now extends into a county that is not part of its model area. So, what are the implications of such cases? What is the process for MPOs to reconcile their boundaries in such cases, or should one expect no changes. I'd appreciate any clarifications on this issue. Garth Banninga, Planner MDOT-Planning Statewide Model Unit 425 W. Ottawa St. Lansing, MI 48933 517.335.2959

23 years, 2 months

RE: [CTPP] UA conversion

by Wrafter

I agree Brian I too had someone do the conversion in ArcInfo and it matched the results from TIGER reader in ArcView 3.2. Although the field name is incorrect it appears the underlying data maybe correct. Eoin Wrafter, AICP Senior Planner Poughkeepsie-Dutchess County Transportation Council 27 High Street, 2nd Floor Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Phone (845) 486-3600 Fax (845) 486-3610 ewrafter(a)co.dutchess.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Brian Lakeman [mailto:Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:41 PM To: 'Banette Kritzky'; kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net; treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a few counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView and chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results matched up exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this? It appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even though the field is named incorrectly. Brian Lakeman Genesee Transportation Council -----Original Message----- From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net; treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b) after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000 census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually extracted the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention? This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out there trying to work through the same problems. Banette =================================== Banette Kritzky GIS Coordinator Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office 395 John Ireland Blvd St. Paul, MN 55155 (651) 296-0220 banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us >>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM >>> I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000. We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like to see the new boundaries before the Fall. Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file, considering the proliferation of ESRI products. Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director Southern Maine RPC 21 Bradeen St. Suite 304 Springvale, ME 04083 (207)324-2952 FAX -2958 treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.org www.smrpc.maine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org> To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion > So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a > third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the > Census site? > > Thanks, > Kendis > > > Kendis Willet > GIS Specialist > Metropolitan Interstate Committee > Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org

23 years, 2 months

Re: [CTPP] UA conversion

by Tom Reinauer

I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000. We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like to see the new boundaries before the Fall. Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file, considering the proliferation of ESRI products. Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director Southern Maine RPC 21 Bradeen St. Suite 304 Springvale, ME 04083 (207)324-2952 FAX -2958 treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.org www.smrpc.maine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org> To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion > So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a > third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the > Census site? > > Thanks, > Kendis > > > Kendis Willet > GIS Specialist > Metropolitan Interstate Committee > Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org

23 years, 2 months

RE: [CTPP] UA conversion

by Brian Lakeman

I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a few counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView and chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results matched up exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this? It appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even though the field is named incorrectly. Brian Lakeman Genesee Transportation Council -----Original Message----- From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net; treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b) after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000 census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually extracted the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention? This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out there trying to work through the same problems. Banette =================================== Banette Kritzky GIS Coordinator Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office 395 John Ireland Blvd St. Paul, MN 55155 (651) 296-0220 banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us >>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM >>> I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000. We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like to see the new boundaries before the Fall. Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file, considering the proliferation of ESRI products. Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director Southern Maine RPC 21 Bradeen St. Suite 304 Springvale, ME 04083 (207)324-2952 FAX -2958 treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.org www.smrpc.maine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org> To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion > So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a > third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the > Census site? > > Thanks, > Kendis > > > Kendis Willet > GIS Specialist > Metropolitan Interstate Committee > Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org

23 years, 2 months

Re: [CTPP] UA conversion

by Banette Kritzky

I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b) after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000 census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually extracted the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention? This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out there trying to work through the same problems. Banette =================================== Banette Kritzky GIS Coordinator Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office 395 John Ireland Blvd St. Paul, MN 55155 (651) 296-0220 banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us >>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM >>> I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000. We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like to see the new boundaries before the Fall. Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file, considering the proliferation of ESRI products. Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director Southern Maine RPC 21 Bradeen St. Suite 304 Springvale, ME 04083 (207)324-2952 FAX -2958 treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.org www.smrpc.maine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org> To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion > So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a > third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the > Census site? > > Thanks, > Kendis > > > Kendis Willet > GIS Specialist > Metropolitan Interstate Committee > Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org

23 years, 2 months

Re: [CTPP] Thanks!

by celia.g.boertlein＠census.gov

There are several ways to get to the release schedule. The most direct way is directly through the following link -- http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2002/demoprofiles.html Patty Becker <pbecker(a)umich.ed To: "Carol Palmoski" <PALMOSKI(a)co.lancaster.pa.us>, u> ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Sent by: cc: owner-ctpp-news(a)c Subject: Re: [CTPP] Thanks! hrispy.net 05/08/2002 01:34 PM Over the next month, Summary File 3 profiles will be released, a few states at a time. The last of the states come out on June 4 (which is where Michigan is). The release schedule is probably somewhere on the census web site, but I couldn't find it on FactFinder. I think they're saying 3 days from the release date until the profiles are up in .pdf on the web. These profiles will be for states, counties, and "cities and towns." Hope this helps. Patty Becker At 11:33 AM 05/08/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know when data will be released on poverty, household incomes, >etc. at the municipal level? > >Carol Palmoski >Lancaster County Planning Commission >50 North Duke Street >Lancaster, Pennsylvania ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patricia C. (Patty) Becker 248/354-6520 APB Associates/SEMCC FAX 248/354-6645 28300 Franklin Road Home 248/355-2428 Southfield, MI 48034 pbecker(a)umich.edu

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