I used the TIGER Reader extension for ArcView and found the same thing. It
reads the 2000 UA, but labels the field UA90, and it truncates the last
digit (gives only 4, should be 5) of the UA code.
I loaded in the 1990 Urban Area .shp file as well,
(downloaded from census website http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/ua1990.html yesterday) to be certain. The area I was looking at is a UA in 2000, but
wasn't in 1990. So this confirmed that the TIGER Reader extension is
reading in the UA 2000 boundaries, it just labels them UA90 (and drops the
last digit of the code!).
Thanks to everyone who has posted on this subject so far. It made my job
much easier!
Leigh Oesterling, Transportation Planner
Modeling & Forecasting Section
Office of Technical Services
Ohio Department of Transportation
(614) 752-5747 FAX (614) 752-8646
Leigh Oesterling
Modeling & Forecasting Section
Office of Technical Services
Ohio Department of Transportation
(614) 752-5747 FAX (614) 752-8646
"Wrafter, Eoin" <ewrafter(a)co.dutchess.ny.us>
Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
05/09/02 08:15 AM
To: "Brian Lakeman" <Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org>
cc: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion
I agree Brian I too had someone do the conversion in ArcInfo and it
matched the results from TIGER reader in ArcView 3.2. Although the
field name is incorrect it appears the underlying data maybe correct.
Eoin Wrafter, AICP
Senior Planner
Poughkeepsie-Dutchess County Transportation Council
27 High Street, 2nd Floor
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Phone (845) 486-3600 Fax (845) 486-3610
ewrafter(a)co.dutchess.ny.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Lakeman [mailto:Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:41 PM
To: 'Banette Kritzky'; kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net;
treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu
Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion
I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a
few
counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView
and
chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results
matched up
exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this?
It
appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even
though
the field is named incorrectly.
Brian Lakeman
Genesee Transportation Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM
To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net;
treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu
Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion
I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to
extract
the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader
only
extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and
b)
after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000
census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a
couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually
extracted
the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention?
This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out
there trying to work through the same problems.
Banette
===================================
Banette Kritzky
GIS Coordinator
Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management
MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office
395 John Ireland Blvd
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 296-0220
banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us
>>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26
PM
>>>
I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA
data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000.
We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really
like
to see the new boundaries before the Fall.
Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a
simple
process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file,
considering the proliferation of ESRI products.
Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director
Southern Maine RPC
21 Bradeen St. Suite 304
Springvale, ME 04083
(207)324-2952
FAX -2958
treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.orgwww.smrpc.maine.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion
> So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to
buy a
> third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off
the
> Census site?
>
> Thanks,
> Kendis
>
>
> Kendis Willet
> GIS Specialist
> Metropolitan Interstate Committee
> Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org
Hi:
The solution for us in getting our 2000 urbanized areas in ArcView shp format was to purchase (actually, upgrade to) the commercial third-party software TGR2SHP (version 4.2) from www.gistools.com. Very easy to use, especially for non-GIS folks like myself.
As I understand it, this is the software that ESRI will (or perhaps eventually) use to create the urbanized areas for downloading on their www.geographynetwork.com site.
I wouldn't recommend the older TIGER translators available on ESRI's site. They were built for TIGER/Line '97 and older!
(Pardon the commercial plug.)
cheers,
Chuck Purvis
***********************************************
Charles L. Purvis, AICP
Senior Transportation Planner/Analyst
Metropolitan Transportation Commission
101 Eighth Street
Oakland, CA 94607-4700
(510) 464-7731 (office)
(510) 464-7848 (fax)
www: http://www.mtc.ca.gov/
Census WWW: http://census.mtc.ca.gov/
***********************************************
I used the TIGER Reader extension for ArcView and found the same thing. It
reads the 2000 UA, but labels the field UA90, and it truncates the last
digit (gives only 4, should be 5) of the UA code.
I loaded in the 1990 Urban Area .shp file as well,
(downloaded from census website http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/ua1990.html yesterday) to be certain. The area I was looking at is a UA in 2000, but
wasn't in 1990. So this confirmed that the TIGER Reader extension is
reading in the UA 2000 boundaries, it just labels them UA90.
Thanks to everyone who has posted on this subject so far. It made my job
much easier!
Leigh Oesterling, Transportation Planner
Modeling & Forecasting Section
Office of Technical Services
Ohio Department of Transportation
(614) 752-5747 FAX (614) 752-8646
Brian Lakeman <Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org>
Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
05/08/02 03:41 PM
To: "'Banette Kritzky'" <banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us>, kwillet(a)ardc.org,
ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net, treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu
cc:
Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion
I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a
few
counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView
and
chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results matched
up
exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this?
It
appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even
though
the field is named incorrectly.
Brian Lakeman
Genesee Transportation Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM
To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net;
treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu
Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion
I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract
the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only
extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b)
after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000
census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a
couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually
extracted
the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention?
This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out
there trying to work through the same problems.
Banette
===================================
Banette Kritzky
GIS Coordinator
Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management
MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office
395 John Ireland Blvd
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 296-0220
banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us
>>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM
>>>
I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA
data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000.
We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really
like
to see the new boundaries before the Fall.
Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple
process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file,
considering the proliferation of ESRI products.
Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director
Southern Maine RPC
21 Bradeen St. Suite 304
Springvale, ME 04083
(207)324-2952
FAX -2958
treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.orgwww.smrpc.maine.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion
> So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy
a
> third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the
> Census site?
>
> Thanks,
> Kendis
>
>
> Kendis Willet
> GIS Specialist
> Metropolitan Interstate Committee
> Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org
The Census Bureau is currently releasing demographic profiles for states,counties, and places on a state-by-state basis. To access the data for your state, please visit:
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2002/demoprofiles.html
Nanda Srinivasan
In viewing some of the Michigan UA boundaries, I've found that some
current MPO modeled areas bleed into other UAs. For instance, a portion
of the Holland model area is now in the Grand Rapids UA. Also, the
Muskegon UA now extends into a county that is not part of its model
area. So, what are the implications of such cases? What is the process
for MPOs to reconcile their boundaries in such cases, or should one
expect no changes. I'd appreciate any clarifications on this issue.
Garth Banninga, Planner
MDOT-Planning
Statewide Model Unit
425 W. Ottawa St.
Lansing, MI 48933
517.335.2959
I agree Brian I too had someone do the conversion in ArcInfo and it
matched the results from TIGER reader in ArcView 3.2. Although the
field name is incorrect it appears the underlying data maybe correct.
Eoin Wrafter, AICP
Senior Planner
Poughkeepsie-Dutchess County Transportation Council
27 High Street, 2nd Floor
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Phone (845) 486-3600 Fax (845) 486-3610
ewrafter(a)co.dutchess.ny.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Lakeman [mailto:Blakeman(a)gtcmpo.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:41 PM
To: 'Banette Kritzky'; kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net;
treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu
Subject: RE: [CTPP] UA conversion
I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a
few
counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView
and
chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results
matched up
exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this?
It
appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even
though
the field is named incorrectly.
Brian Lakeman
Genesee Transportation Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM
To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net;
treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu
Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion
I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to
extract
the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader
only
extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and
b)
after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000
census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a
couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually
extracted
the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention?
This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out
there trying to work through the same problems.
Banette
===================================
Banette Kritzky
GIS Coordinator
Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management
MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office
395 John Ireland Blvd
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 296-0220
banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us
>>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26
PM
>>>
I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA
data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000.
We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really
like
to see the new boundaries before the Fall.
Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a
simple
process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file,
considering the proliferation of ESRI products.
Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director
Southern Maine RPC
21 Bradeen St. Suite 304
Springvale, ME 04083
(207)324-2952
FAX -2958
treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.orgwww.smrpc.maine.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion
> So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to
buy a
> third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off
the
> Census site?
>
> Thanks,
> Kendis
>
>
> Kendis Willet
> GIS Specialist
> Metropolitan Interstate Committee
> Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org
I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA
data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000.
We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like
to see the new boundaries before the Fall.
Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple
process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file,
considering the proliferation of ESRI products.
Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director
Southern Maine RPC
21 Bradeen St. Suite 304
Springvale, ME 04083
(207)324-2952
FAX -2958
treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.orgwww.smrpc.maine.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion
> So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a
> third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the
> Census site?
>
> Thanks,
> Kendis
>
>
> Kendis Willet
> GIS Specialist
> Metropolitan Interstate Committee
> Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org
I too have found this. I had someone with Arc/Info graciously convert a few
counties worth of 2000UA data for me. When I ran TIGER Reader in ArcView and
chose "Urbanized Areas 1990" as the field to extract, the results matched up
exactly with the Arc/Info converted files. Has anyone else noticed this? It
appears that TIGER Reader may be doing the conversion correctly, even though
the field is named incorrectly.
Brian Lakeman
Genesee Transportation Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Banette Kritzky [mailto:banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 PM
To: kwillet(a)ardc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net;
treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu
Subject: Re: [CTPP] UA conversion
I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract
the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only
extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b)
after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000
census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a
couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually extracted
the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention?
This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out
there trying to work through the same problems.
Banette
===================================
Banette Kritzky
GIS Coordinator
Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management
MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office
395 John Ireland Blvd
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 296-0220
banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us
>>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM
>>>
I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA
data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000.
We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like
to see the new boundaries before the Fall.
Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple
process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file,
considering the proliferation of ESRI products.
Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director
Southern Maine RPC
21 Bradeen St. Suite 304
Springvale, ME 04083
(207)324-2952
FAX -2958
treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.orgwww.smrpc.maine.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion
> So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a
> third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the
> Census site?
>
> Thanks,
> Kendis
>
>
> Kendis Willet
> GIS Specialist
> Metropolitan Interstate Committee
> Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org
I also used the Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a in an attempt to extract the UAs. I am, however, puzzled by the following: a) if this Reader only extracts 1990 data, why was one of the layers titled ALR/LUCA 2000; and b) after reprojecting the extracted UA90 layer and overlaying my block2000 census data, why do the boundaries match up almost exactly (except for a couple of donut holes) ? Could it be possible the Reader actually extracted the 2000 data, but is using the old field naming convention?
This list serve has been a great relief knowing there are others out there trying to work through the same problems.
Banette
===================================
Banette Kritzky
GIS Coordinator
Mn/DOT Office of Investment Management
MS 440, 3rd Floor, Mn/DOT Central Office
395 John Ireland Blvd
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 296-0220
banette.kritzky(a)dot.state.mn.us
>>> "Tom Reinauer" <treinauer(a)edd.uct.usm.maine.edu> 5/8/2002 12:08:26 PM >>>
I tried using Tiger Reader in ArcView 3.2a and have had no luck. The UA
data record also appears to be 1990, not 2000.
We have cross-border issues and split urbanized areas and would really like
to see the new boundaries before the Fall.
Someone out there must know of a fairly simple process(or develop a simple
process) to convert the boundary data into an ArcView shape file,
considering the proliferation of ESRI products.
Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director
Southern Maine RPC
21 Bradeen St. Suite 304
Springvale, ME 04083
(207)324-2952
FAX -2958
treinauer(a)server.eddmaine.orgwww.smrpc.maine.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kendis Willet" <kwillet(a)ardc.org>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: [CTPP] UA conversion
> So, if you are using Arcview 3.2 and ArcInfo 8.1 and are not able to buy a
> third party software, a person can't process these UA boundaries off the
> Census site?
>
> Thanks,
> Kendis
>
>
> Kendis Willet
> GIS Specialist
> Metropolitan Interstate Committee
> Email: kwillet(a)ardc.org
There are several ways to get to the release schedule.
The most direct way is directly through the following link --
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2002/demoprofiles.html
Patty Becker
<pbecker(a)umich.ed To: "Carol Palmoski" <PALMOSKI(a)co.lancaster.pa.us>,
u> ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Sent by: cc:
owner-ctpp-news(a)c Subject: Re: [CTPP] Thanks!
hrispy.net
05/08/2002 01:34
PM
Over the next month, Summary File 3 profiles will be released, a few states
at a time. The last of the states come out on June 4 (which is where
Michigan is). The release schedule is probably somewhere on the census web
site, but I couldn't find it on FactFinder. I think they're saying 3 days
from the release date until the profiles are up in .pdf on the web. These
profiles will be for states, counties, and "cities and towns."
Hope this helps.
Patty Becker
At 11:33 AM 05/08/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know when data will be released on poverty, household incomes,
>etc. at the municipal level?
>
>Carol Palmoski
>Lancaster County Planning Commission
>50 North Duke Street
>Lancaster, Pennsylvania
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