CTPP June 2002

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by MBrienzo＠ci.lincoln.ne.us

Great Idea. When can it be implemented? "Peter H. Van Demark" To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net <peter(a)caliper.co cc: m> Subject: Re: [CTPP] Great getting the CTPP News Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)c hrispy.net 06/05/2002 10:51 AM Frank: >Perhaps there could be one listserv for announcements only (which does not >permit replies/group discussion) and another listserv for those of us who do >want the "garbage" that goes along with it. I think the "garbage" that Carol is referring to is all the extra, unnecessary text. Notice how I just clipped out the portion of your e-mail that I am reacting to. I think that is what she wants us all to do. Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Van Demark Director of GIS Products and Training Phone: 617-527-4700 Caliper Corporation Fax: 617-527-5113 1172 Beacon Street E-mail: peter(a)caliper.com Newton MA 02461-9926 Web site: http://www.caliper.com

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Re: [CTPP] Listserv Email Management

by MBrienzo＠ci.lincoln.ne.us

Question. Is there any way I can stop getting duplicate messages of every email that has CTPP on it? - mb

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RE: [CTPP] re lack of walking in the south.

by Gardner

South Carolina is also a screen door away from hell in August, but usually quite nice around Census day. Nearly every region has seasonal weather issues that make walking unpleasant. Hard to explain the variation entirely with weather. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Houston [mailto:rhouston(a)tylertexas.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:42 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: [CTPP] re lack of walking in the south. Ever walked in Texas in the dead heat of August? C. Robert Houston GIS Planner City of Tyler 423 W Ferguson Tyler, Tx. 75702 (903) 531-1175 FAX: (903) 531-1170

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RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work

by Spring

I am the regional transportation modeler for Anchorage. I am at a loss to explain why the walk to work rate is so high in Alaska. Anchorage, which makes up nearly half of the State's population, isn't especially known for its dense compact development. The remainder of Alaskan towns are much smaller than Anchorage and are no doubt much more walkable. It would be interesting to diaagregate the walk to work figures for Alaska in order to determine its source. Jon Spring Senior Transportation Planner Municipality of Anchorage Traffic Department springjr(a)ci.anchorage.ak.us (907) 343-7994 -----Original Message----- From: Shinwon Kim [mailto:shinwon(a)rtc.wa.gov] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:18 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work For MT, maybe farmers contribute. My guess for AK is that the development pattern might be the reason. I mean very restrictive natural environment causes more compact residential developments close to work place. Shinwon -----Original Message----- From: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net [mailto:owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net]On Behalf Of Don Burrell Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:32 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work My $0.02: I think the main influence is urban density which would apply to D.C., N.Y., and VT. I am surprised that AK and MT are so high but I have heard also that in agricultural areas, that farmers report 'walking to work' on their own farm property rather than 'working at home'. That's still far fetched for these 2 states. I'll watch the other responses. Don Burrell, Senior Planner Bicycle / Pedestrian Coordinator OKI Regional Council of Governments 801-B West Eighth St. Suite 400 Cincinnati, OH 45203-1607 513-621-6300 513-621-9325 - fax dburrell(a)oki.org <mailto:dburrell(a)oki.org> <A bicycle is an instrument for playing the road> -----Original Message----- From: David Saladino [mailto:dsaladino(a)swrpc.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:51 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work It is interesting to note that 4 of the top 5 walk-to-work states are northern (i.e. cold) states. While the bottom two are southern states. I would have thought it would be the other way around. Any thoughts about why this is? Income, sidewalk connectivity, climate?? Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:49 PM To: Chuck Purvis; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net <snip> ***Top/Bottom States in Walk-to-Work Commute Share US 2.9% District of Columbia 11.8% Alaska 7.3% New York 6.2% Vermont 5.5% Montana 5.5% ... Tennessee 1.5% Alabama 1.3%

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[CTPP] Listserv Email Management

by Mark Harrington

As a subscriber to a half dozen or more listservs, I receive dozens of listserv emails every day. To manage my incoming mail I have set up rules for MS Outlook to automatically place email from each listserv into its own folder. This keeps the listserv email out of my inbox and separate from my work related messages. I can then review the listserv email when time permits, without it cluttering my inbox. To create rules for handling your email use the "Rules Wizard" under the "Tools" drop down menu in MS Outlook. A similar feature most likely exists in other common email apps. My apologies for adding to the clutter in your inbox, but I felt the information would be of benefit. Mark Harrington

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Re: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work

by Forinash.Christopher＠epamail.epa.gov

Yes, but ... My point was that the "Census mode share" is this odd measure, that doesn't measure what people do on a single day, or overall commute patterns. If my explanation was too simplistic I'm sorry, but it's true -- the CTPP just does not reflect commute travel mode shares once you scratch the surface. However, I always appreciate a snide comment, so thanks. ------------------------------------ Christopher V. Forinash U.S. EPA: Office of Policy, Economics and Innovation 1200 Pennsylvania Ave NW (MC 1808), Washington DC 20460 (Delivery: 401 M St. SW, #WT-1013D) 202-260-5044 vox 0174 fax; forinash.christopher(a)epa.gov ------------------------------------ Development, Community & Environment Division: http://www.epa.gov/smartgrowth A partner in the Smart Growth Network: http://www.smartgrowth.org C Kenneth Orski <korski(a)erols.co To: Christopher Forinash/DC/USEPA/US(a)EPA m> cc: dsaladino(a)swrpc.org, ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work 06/05/2002 12:23 PM Forinash.Christopher(a)epamail.epa.gov wrote: > ...That's one of the flaw's with using CTPP/JTW for much more than "hmmm" > factoids, and is clearly a reason why transit shares show up so much > lower than other observations reveal. > Chris. ====================== The reason for a declining transit share is not the "hmmm" factor bu the fact that total trip making has increased more than transit ridership. If you increase the denominator more than the numerator, you get a smaller fraction. Q.E.D.

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Re: [CTPP] Digest Version???

by Patty Becker

I second the digest idea. I have this on another listserve which has a lot of discussion and it works well for me; gives me a chance to see what a lot of people have said before I hit the reply button. Patty Becker ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patricia C. (Patty) Becker 248/354-6520 APB Associates/SEMCC FAX 248/354-6645 28300 Franklin Road Home 248/355-2428 Southfield, MI 48034 pbecker(a)umich.edu

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Re: [CTPP] Great getting the CTPP News

by millef1＠mail.modot.state.mo.us

One of the things I like about the CTPP listserv is the ability to discuss, as a group, national demographic and transportation behavior trends. In fact, I thought that discussion was one of the reasons for setting up a CTPP discussion list. Perhaps there could be one listserv for announcements only (which does not permit replies/group discussion) and another listserv for those of us who do want the "garbage" that goes along with it. Frank Miller Missouri Department of Transportation - District 8 "Carol Palmoski" <PALMOSKI(a)co.lancaster.pa.us> on 06/05/2002 09:57:11 AM To: cc: (bcc: Frank O Miller/D8/MODOT) Subject: [CTPP] Great getting the CTPP News I am very grateful to get the CTPP news from you, however, I am getting tired of getting everyone's comments who as to respond to one e-mail. Is there anyway of just getting the initial information from you and not all of the garbage that goes with it? Carol K. Palmoski, Lancaster County Planning Commission 50 North Duke Street Lancaster, PA, palmoski(a)co.lancaster.pa.us

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RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work

by Forinash.Christopher＠epamail.epa.gov

Hey David and list, Keep in mind the Census date is 4/1/2000, and the question (if I remember correctly) asks for usual main mode to work over the past week. That's one of the flaw's with using CTPP/JTW for much more than "hmmm" factoids, and is clearly a reason why transit shares show up so much lower than other observations reveal. For example, I don't take transit to work every day, but I do so at least once a week, and sometimes for the trip to and not from, etc. Chris. ------------------------------------ Christopher V. Forinash U.S. EPA: Office of Policy, Economics and Innovation 1200 Pennsylvania Ave NW (MC 1808), Washington DC 20460 (Delivery: 401 M St. SW, #WT-1013D) 202-260-5044 vox 0174 fax; forinash.christopher(a)epa.gov ------------------------------------ Development, Community & Environment Division: http://www.epa.gov/smartgrowth A partner in the Smart Growth Network: http://www.smartgrowth.org David Saladino <dsaladino(a)swrpc To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net .org> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work owner-ctpp-news@ chrispy.net 06/05/2002 08:51 AM Please respond to dsaladino It is interesting to note that 4 of the top 5 walk-to-work states are northern (i.e. cold) states. While the bottom two are southern states. I would have thought it would be the other way around. Any thoughts about why this is? Income, sidewalk connectivity, climate?? Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:49 PM To: Chuck Purvis; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net <snip> ***Top/Bottom States in Walk-to-Work Commute Share US 2.9% District of Columbia 11.8% Alaska 7.3% New York 6.2% Vermont 5.5% Montana 5.5% ... Tennessee 1.5% Alabama 1.3%

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RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work

by Don Burrell

My $0.02: I think the main influence is urban density which would apply to D.C., N.Y., and VT. I am surprised that AK and MT are so high but I have heard also that in agricultural areas, that farmers report 'walking to work' on their own farm property rather than 'working at home'. That's still far fetched for these 2 states. I'll watch the other responses. Don Burrell, Senior Planner Bicycle / Pedestrian Coordinator OKI Regional Council of Governments 801-B West Eighth St. Suite 400 Cincinnati, OH 45203-1607 513-621-6300 513-621-9325 - fax dburrell(a)oki.org <mailto:dburrell(a)oki.org> <A bicycle is an instrument for playing the road> -----Original Message----- From: David Saladino [mailto:dsaladino(a)swrpc.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:51 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] US States Rankings for Means of Transportation to Work It is interesting to note that 4 of the top 5 walk-to-work states are northern (i.e. cold) states. While the bottom two are southern states. I would have thought it would be the other way around. Any thoughts about why this is? Income, sidewalk connectivity, climate?? Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:49 PM To: Chuck Purvis; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net <snip> ***Top/Bottom States in Walk-to-Work Commute Share US 2.9% District of Columbia 11.8% Alaska 7.3% New York 6.2% Vermont 5.5% Montana 5.5% ... Tennessee 1.5% Alabama 1.3%

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