I realize that the specific criteria will be published in the FR.
However, do we know whether any non-population-density criteria were
included in the final criteria? Other than the airports that were used
the last time around.
Donald Cooper
Director of Public Transportation Planning
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System
40 Harlow Street
Bangor
Maine 04401
Tel (207) 942-6389
Fax (207) 942-3548
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
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Subject: [CTPP] If you are interested in CB Urban Areas delineation
Since some of you have asked me individually, here is a post to
"everyone":
Mike Ratcliffe from the Census Bureau recently told us:
"The CB's Statistical Areas Committee met in June and approved our final
criteria. The Federal Register notice has been working its way through
all the required reviews at the agency and department level. We are
anticipating publication in September.
Meanwhile, urban area delineation based on these criteria is underway.
We are on track for an announcement of urbanized areas and urban
clusters in early 2012."
Elaine
http://www.census.gov/geo/puma/puma2010.html
The Census Bureau just updated their PUMA webpage with LOTS of
information, including a link to the State Data Centers. The current
plan is that the SDCs will get the PUMA software from the CB (via ftp
download) in September, and will have until "early January" to return
the files to the Census Bureau Geography Division. The SDCs are
encouraged to work with local agencies. They are not required to do so.
We hope that State DOTs and MPOs will take the initiative to talk to
their SDCs to work on PUMA delineation.
As you know PUMAs are now a tabulation geography, particularly important
for ACS tabulation.
The software is a new module of the MTPS software, so for those of you
who just completed TAZ delineation, you will already be familiar with
it.
By the way, the Census Bureau has received all the files from TAZ
participants, and Caliper is completing TAD delineation for some of the
areas that delineated TAZs but NOT TADS. TADs will be a nationwide
(complete) coverage at the 20,000 population level (with a very very few
exceptions). At this point in time, TADs are a "custom geography" for
the CTPP program, and not used for standard ACS products.
Elaine
There are 2 different things:
1. One is GEOGRAPHY: The list of Urban Areas, including Urbanized
Areas (over 50,000 population) is a list of Place names and a population
count. In the Fall 2012, the TIGER file will have a boundaries of those
areas.
2. One is TABULATION: Urban/Rural update is probably a TABULATION
of 2010 Census results.
Elaine
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Subject: [CTPP] RE: If you are interested in CB Urban Areas delineation
Hello:
The release date of early 2012 for the delineation of rural urban areas
is a signficiantly different from the date that I was told in June,
2011.
Perhaps someone can comment. Has the date changed or is Urban area
delineation different from "Urban/Rural Update"?
Let me explain:
In June, 2012, I spoke to the general information line (1-800-932-8282)
at the Census Bureau about the scheduled release of the urban - rural
data set for the 2010 Census.
The then project release date was shown on the is October of 2012 as
"Urban/Rural Update" found at this location:
http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2010/glance/
There was no anticipated change to the schedule at that time.
The schedule as predicated on the attached sheet was being followed.
According to the Census Bureau staff, there was no anticipated reason
for the schedule to change at this time.
Please advise if the timeline has changed or if Urban area delineation
is not the Urban/rural update?
Mike LeBlanc, AICP <http://www.planning.org/AICP/>
Planning Manager, Special Projects Division
Rosa Parks Transportation Center
Lafayette Consolidated Government
Department of Traffic and Transportation
P.O. Box 4017-C
101 East Cypress Street
Lafayette, LA 70502
Ph: 337-291-7179
Fx: 337-291-8458
Planning for the 21st Century <http://www.lafayettelinc.net/>
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Since some of you have asked me individually, here is a post to
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Mike Ratcliffe from the Census Bureau recently told us:
"The CB's Statistical Areas Committee met in June and approved our final
criteria. The Federal Register notice has been working its way through
all the required reviews at the agency and department level. We are
anticipating publication in September.
Meanwhile, urban area delineation based on these criteria is underway.
We are on track for an announcement of urbanized areas and urban
clusters in early 2012."
Elaine
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Since some of you have asked me individually, here is a post to
"everyone":
Mike Ratcliffe from the Census Bureau recently told us:
"The CB's Statistical Areas Committee met in June and approved our final
criteria. The Federal Register notice has been working its way through
all the required reviews at the agency and department level. We are
anticipating publication in September.
Meanwhile, urban area delineation based on these criteria is underway.
We are on track for an announcement of urbanized areas and urban
clusters in early 2012."
Elaine
Nice.
Thanks !!
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This might be what you are looking for......
>From <http://nhts.ornl.gov/2009/pub/stt.pdf>
http://nhts.ornl.gov/2009/pub/stt.pdf
Summary of Travel Trends, 2009 NHTS
Table 27 page 44 shown below
Liang Long <LLong(a)camsys.com>
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Hi, Kaine
As other people noted, you can use NHTS 2008 for your purpose. There is a
variable called "TRPMILES", which is travel distance in miles. Good luck!
Liang Long
Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
4800 Hampden Lane
Suite 800
Bethesda, MD 20814
tel 301 347 9141
fax 301 347 0101
FHWA 202-366-6971
e-mail llong(a)camsys.comwww.camsys.com
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Subject: [CTPP] information on average commuter travel time in the
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Everyone-
I am interested to find out if anyone has any valid information in regards
to the average amount of miles traveled one way by commuters in the U.S. ? I
remember reading somewhere the average American drives something like 26
minutes(or thereabouts) one way to work each day but in this case I am
specifically looking for a number of miles traveled one way.
Any help with this question would be appreciated.
Thanks
Kaine McClelland
Nebraska Dept. of Roads
Transportation Planner
1400 Highway 2
Lincoln, NE 68509
phone: 402-479-3937
In the NHTS Summary of Travel Trends, page 13, the average person trip
length for "to/from work" is 11.8 miles (that would be ONE way, not
round trip).
There is some difficulty in analysis because of trip chaining, so when
someone goes from work-to-shop-to-home, this would not be measured in
miles as a work to home trip.
http://nhts.ornl.gov/index.shtml This page has a link to the pdf of
Summary of Travel Trends.
By the way, what Liang Long was referring to was the NHTS on-line table
generator. It is also accessible from the NHTS main webpage. After you
register, you can easily tabulate (1-way, 2-way, 3-way cross tabs, with
subsetting) many variables without having to do any programming. Then,
you can output as a spreadsheet or html.
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
206-220-4460 (in Seattle)
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Everyone-
I am interested to find out if anyone has any valid information in
regards to the average amount of miles traveled one way by commuters in
the U.S. ? I remember reading somewhere the average American drives
something like 26 minutes(or thereabouts) one way to work each day but
in this case I am specifically looking for a number of miles traveled
one way.
Any help with this question would be appreciated.
Thanks
Kaine McClelland
Nebraska Dept. of Roads
Transportation Planner
1400 Highway 2
Lincoln, NE 68509
phone: 402-479-3937
This might be what you are looking for......
>From http://nhts.ornl.gov/2009/pub/stt.pdf
Summary of Travel Trends, 2009 NHTS
Table 27 page 44 shown below
Liang Long <LLong(a)camsys.com>
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Hi, Kaine
As other people noted, you can use NHTS 2008 for your purpose. There is
a variable called "TRPMILES", which is travel distance in miles. Good
luck!
Liang Long
Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
4800 Hampden Lane
Suite 800
Bethesda, MD 20814
tel 301 347 9141
fax 301 347 0101
FHWA 202-366-6971
e-mail llong(a)camsys.comwww.camsys.com
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Everyone-
I am interested to find out if anyone has any valid information in regards
to the average amount of miles traveled one way by commuters in the U.S. ?
I remember reading somewhere the average American drives something like 26
minutes(or thereabouts) one way to work each day but in this case I am
specifically looking for a number of miles traveled one way.
Any help with this question would be appreciated.
Thanks
Kaine McClelland
Nebraska Dept. of Roads
Transportation Planner
1400 Highway 2
Lincoln, NE 68509
phone: 402-479-3937
Hi, Kaine
As other people noted, you can use NHTS 2008 for your purpose. There is
a variable called "TRPMILES", which is travel distance in miles. Good
luck!
Liang Long
Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
4800 Hampden Lane
Suite 800
Bethesda, MD 20814
tel 301 347 9141
fax 301 347 0101
FHWA 202-366-6971
e-mail llong(a)camsys.comwww.camsys.com
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Everyone-
I am interested to find out if anyone has any valid information in regards
to the average amount of miles traveled one way by commuters in the U.S. ?
I remember reading somewhere the average American drives something like 26
minutes(or thereabouts) one way to work each day but in this case I am
specifically looking for a number of miles traveled one way.
Any help with this question would be appreciated.
Thanks
Kaine McClelland
Nebraska Dept. of Roads
Transportation Planner
1400 Highway 2
Lincoln, NE 68509
phone: 402-479-3937
Oops, sorry, I misread what you are looking for, I believe the NHTS
collects miles traveled, but the ACS does not.
Penelope Weinberger
CTPP Program Manager
AASHTO
202-624-3556
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/default.aspx
<http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/default.aspx>
It's just as bad to not make a plan as to blindly follow the one you
already have.
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Everyone-
I am interested to find out if anyone has any valid information in
regards to the average amount of miles traveled one way by commuters in
the U.S. ? I remember reading somewhere the average American drives
something like 26 minutes(or thereabouts) one way to work each day but
in this case I am specifically looking for a number of miles traveled
one way.
Any help with this question would be appreciated.
Thanks
Kaine McClelland
Nebraska Dept. of Roads
Transportation Planner
1400 Highway 2
Lincoln, NE 68509
phone: 402-479-3937
According to CTPP table 12230 Mean Travel Time by Mode for Workers 16 +,
based on the 2006 - 2008 ACS data (attached), 25.3 is the Mean travel
time for all modes (plus or minus .09 minutes), to get a more refined
table by specific geography or mode, go to
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/3yrdas.aspx and click Take me to
the data...
Penelope Weinberger
CTPP Program Manager
AASHTO
202-624-3556
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/default.aspx
<http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/default.aspx>
It's just as bad to not make a plan as to blindly follow the one you
already have.
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Everyone-
I am interested to find out if anyone has any valid information in
regards to the average amount of miles traveled one way by commuters in
the U.S. ? I remember reading somewhere the average American drives
something like 26 minutes(or thereabouts) one way to work each day but
in this case I am specifically looking for a number of miles traveled
one way.
Any help with this question would be appreciated.
Thanks
Kaine McClelland
Nebraska Dept. of Roads
Transportation Planner
1400 Highway 2
Lincoln, NE 68509
phone: 402-479-3937