Agreed on removing the word "metro". A wide variety of non-rail transit
systems incorporate the word "metro" or "Metro" into their branding or
service schemes. The Kansas City transportation authority extensively
brands itself as "The Metro", but doesn't have a single rail component
in the system (although some are being planned).
Thanks,
Tom
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I like the second classification, but I want "metro" (whether
capitalized or not) stricken from it. Our bus system has "Go*Metro" all
over the sides of their busses, and a fairly decent proportion of their
riders may not understand that metro = subway on the form, I wouldn't
want them confused.
__ Streetcar or trolley rail
__ Subway or light rail
__ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
Andrew Rohne
OKI Regional Council
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Subject: [CTPP] American Commuter Survey (ACS): The Means of
Transportation Question
Hello,
As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question
on the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the
previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person
usually used more than one method of transportation during the trip,
mark (X) the box of the one used for most of the distance.
__ Car, truck, or van
__ Bus or trolley bus
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
__ Ferryboat
__ Taxicab
__ Motorcycle
__ Bicycle
__ Walked
__ Worked at home
__ Other method
Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether
updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public
transportation categories associated with use of rail:
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these
to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for
testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change"
test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is
a very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here
is one approach under consideration for future testing:
__ Streetcar or trolley rail
__ Subway, metro, or light rail
__ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer
to a rail transit mode:
__ Rail - streetcar or trolley
__ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
__ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from
the viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data
analyst, please send me an email and I will summarize all comments
received in a future email to this listserv (along with your name as the
author, unless you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply
directly to this listserv with your observations!
Ken Cervenka
FTA Office of Planning and Environment
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I like the second classification, but I want "metro" (whether capitalized or not) stricken from it. Our bus system has "Go*Metro" all over the sides of their busses, and a fairly decent proportion of their riders may not understand that metro = subway on the form, I wouldn't want them confused.
__ Streetcar or trolley rail
__ Subway or light rail
__ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
Andrew Rohne
OKI Regional Council
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To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] American Commuter Survey (ACS): The Means of Transportation Question
Hello,
As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question on the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person usually used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark (X) the box of the one used for most of the distance.
__ Car, truck, or van
__ Bus or trolley bus
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
__ Ferryboat
__ Taxicab
__ Motorcycle
__ Bicycle
__ Walked
__ Worked at home
__ Other method
Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public transportation categories associated with use of rail:
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change" test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is one approach under consideration for future testing:
__ Streetcar or trolley rail
__ Subway, metro, or light rail
__ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer to a rail transit mode:
__ Rail - streetcar or trolley
__ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
__ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst, please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this listserv with your observations!
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Glad you are looking at this. I like the idea of adding light rail. In the new start locations this is commonly known by the public as light rail. I do think it fits better with streetcar and trolley. Since the question refers to last week it is almost certainly travel in their home town (unless they were out of town for the majority of the week) so one could set up logic checks to test the reasonableness of the responses.
I wish they would also shift to asking about the mode on the most recent day they commuted to work. Transit is more commonly an occasional mode (compared to auto) and hence it is not uncommon for folks to use it a few time per week but not the majority and very common for folks to have it as a normal mode but not exclusive mode leading to some overstating of transit commuting use. NHTS confirms a significant difference between actual and usual mode for transit. Would be nice to shift to actual travel day mode.
Steven E. Polzin, PhD
Director, Mobility Policy
Center for Urban Transportation Research
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Subject: [CTPP] American Commuter Survey (ACS): The Means of Transportation Question
Hello,
As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question on the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person usually used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark (X) the box of the one used for most of the distance.
__ Car, truck, or van
__ Bus or trolley bus
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
__ Ferryboat
__ Taxicab
__ Motorcycle
__ Bicycle
__ Walked
__ Worked at home
__ Other method
Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public transportation categories associated with use of rail:
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change" test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is one approach under consideration for future testing:
__ Streetcar or trolley rail
__ Subway, metro, or light rail
__ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer to a rail transit mode:
__ Rail - streetcar or trolley
__ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
__ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst, please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this listserv with your observations!
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metro (didnt capitalize, because it refers in this context to a type of
rail system, not a name of a rail system) is the international term but not
used extensively in this country. Probably the best term is
subway/elevated. The point is that metros/subways and elevates are fully
grade separated, and faster... as opposed to light rail, which is rarely,
if ever, fully grade separated and thus is generally slower and has much
lower capacities.
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Patricia Becker <pbecker(a)umich.edu> wrote:
> This is going to be very difficult to test because so few ACS respondents
> have access to any of these. Does the word "metro" mean the same thing in
> all metro areas, or are there some where it refers to bus transportation?
> I'm not sure the term "rail" resonates well everywhere, either. I would
> suggest that FDOT gather information from the states and metros where rail
> commuting is a feasible option and find out what people call it, or how
> it's referred to, such as "metro" in the Washington DC areas.
>
> Patty Becker
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:23 PM, <Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question
>> on the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the
>> previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
>>
>> How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person
>> usually used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark
>> (X) the box of the one used for most of the distance.
>> __ Car, truck, or van
>> __ Bus or trolley bus
>> __ Streetcar or trolley car
>> __ Subway or elevated
>> __ Railroad
>> __ Ferryboat
>> __ Taxicab
>> __ Motorcycle
>> __ Bicycle
>> __ Walked
>> __ Worked at home
>> __ Other method
>>
>> Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether
>> updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public
>> transportation categories associated with use of rail:
>> __ Streetcar or trolley car
>> __ Subway or elevated
>> __ Railroad
>>
>> However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these
>> to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for
>> testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change"
>> test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a
>> very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is
>> one approach under consideration for future testing:
>> __ Streetcar or trolley rail
>> __ Subway, metro, or light rail
>> __ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
>>
>> Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer
>> to a rail transit mode:
>> __ Rail - streetcar or trolley
>> __ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
>> __ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
>>
>> If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the
>> viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst,
>> please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a
>> future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless
>> you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this
>> listserv with your observations!
>>
>> Ken Cervenka
>> FTA Office of Planning and Environment
>> 202/493-0512
>>
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This is going to be very difficult to test because so few ACS respondents
have access to any of these. Does the word "metro" mean the same thing in
all metro areas, or are there some where it refers to bus transportation?
I'm not sure the term "rail" resonates well everywhere, either. I would
suggest that FDOT gather information from the states and metros where rail
commuting is a feasible option and find out what people call it, or how
it's referred to, such as "metro" in the Washington DC areas.
Patty Becker
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:23 PM, <Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question on
> the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the
> previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
>
> How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person usually
> used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark (X) the
> box of the one used for most of the distance.
> __ Car, truck, or van
> __ Bus or trolley bus
> __ Streetcar or trolley car
> __ Subway or elevated
> __ Railroad
> __ Ferryboat
> __ Taxicab
> __ Motorcycle
> __ Bicycle
> __ Walked
> __ Worked at home
> __ Other method
>
> Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether
> updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public
> transportation categories associated with use of rail:
> __ Streetcar or trolley car
> __ Subway or elevated
> __ Railroad
>
> However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these
> to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for
> testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change"
> test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a
> very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is
> one approach under consideration for future testing:
> __ Streetcar or trolley rail
> __ Subway, metro, or light rail
> __ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
>
> Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer
> to a rail transit mode:
> __ Rail - streetcar or trolley
> __ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
> __ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
>
> If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the
> viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst,
> please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a
> future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless
> you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this
> listserv with your observations!
>
> Ken Cervenka
> FTA Office of Planning and Environment
> 202/493-0512
>
>
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Ken,
I think it best to clarify what exists today, as opposed to creating "new" categories, in order that comparisons may be made (albeit with caveats) to the past. Therefore, I think that light rail is often a "street" mode and most users would have been answering "Streetcar or trolley rail" because they all ride in the street. And, like Krishnan, for clarity, I like the use of "Rail - " as a prefix. So, placing the most frequent answers first in the list within each response, I'm in favor of:
__ Rail - light rail, streetcar, or trolley
__ Rail - subway, metro, or elevated
__ Rail - commuter rail or Amtrak
Rob
PS It's sort of picky, but I think "commuter rail" is more common and more accurate than "commuter railroad" (the actual "railroad" can be owned by one company and used by it for freight, by Amtrak, and by a commuter rail outfit).
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To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] American Commuter Survey (ACS): The Means of Transportation Question
Hello,
As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question on the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person usually used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark (X) the box of the one used for most of the distance.
__ Car, truck, or van
__ Bus or trolley bus
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
__ Ferryboat
__ Taxicab
__ Motorcycle
__ Bicycle
__ Walked
__ Worked at home
__ Other method
Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public transportation categories associated with use of rail:
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change" test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is one approach under consideration for future testing:
__ Streetcar or trolley rail
__ Subway, metro, or light rail
__ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer to a rail transit mode:
__ Rail - streetcar or trolley
__ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
__ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst, please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this listserv with your observations!
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FTA Office of Planning and Environment
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I personally like the second classification:
__ Rail - streetcar or trolley
__ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
__ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
My reasons are the following:
1) As a survey respondent it removes the confusion regd. what to answer
faced with this question. A regular respondent will say that they take the
train, they do not distinguish between subway/light rail vs commuter rail
and calling it out in this manner - where we we have rail broken into
subcategories will help the respondent choose the right type of rail.
2) As an analyst, having this classification makes it easier to compare
across and within modes and geographies. What i mean is this - lets say we
did not distinguish that these are 3 rail modes which are classified
further as streetcar/light/commuter and geog A has all 3 rail modes
available, geog B has only 2 rail modes, and geog C has only one rail mode
available. Doing this classification allows the analyst to determine that
in all 3 geographies, when a respondent choice is one common mode, it means
the same thing and not different things to different respondents in
different geographies. It will also allow for better mode choice estimation
if the nest definitions are directly from the survey data and not solely
reliant on analyst judgement. Further, when looking at results/doing
studies later on it might be easier to consider what the aggregate rail
mode comprises of when compared to auto and bus.
Krishnan
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:23 PM, <Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question on
> the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the
> previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
>
> How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person usually
> used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark (X) the
> box of the one used for most of the distance.
> __ Car, truck, or van
> __ Bus or trolley bus
> __ Streetcar or trolley car
> __ Subway or elevated
> __ Railroad
> __ Ferryboat
> __ Taxicab
> __ Motorcycle
> __ Bicycle
> __ Walked
> __ Worked at home
> __ Other method
>
> Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether
> updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public
> transportation categories associated with use of rail:
> __ Streetcar or trolley car
> __ Subway or elevated
> __ Railroad
>
> However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these
> to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for
> testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change"
> test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a
> very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is
> one approach under consideration for future testing:
> __ Streetcar or trolley rail
> __ Subway, metro, or light rail
> __ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
>
> Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer
> to a rail transit mode:
> __ Rail - streetcar or trolley
> __ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
> __ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
>
> If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the
> viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst,
> please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a
> future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless
> you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this
> listserv with your observations!
>
> Ken Cervenka
> FTA Office of Planning and Environment
> 202/493-0512
>
>
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Light rail does not belong with subway and metro. It belongs with trolley
or street car. Other than that either of the two alternatives would be
fine. But if light rail is to be twinned with metro, better to stay with
what we have.
Best regards,
Wendell Cox
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:23 PM, <Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question on
> the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the
> previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
>
> How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person usually
> used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark (X) the
> box of the one used for most of the distance.
> __ Car, truck, or van
> __ Bus or trolley bus
> __ Streetcar or trolley car
> __ Subway or elevated
> __ Railroad
> __ Ferryboat
> __ Taxicab
> __ Motorcycle
> __ Bicycle
> __ Walked
> __ Worked at home
> __ Other method
>
> Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether
> updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public
> transportation categories associated with use of rail:
> __ Streetcar or trolley car
> __ Subway or elevated
> __ Railroad
>
> However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these
> to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for
> testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change"
> test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a
> very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is
> one approach under consideration for future testing:
> __ Streetcar or trolley rail
> __ Subway, metro, or light rail
> __ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
>
> Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer
> to a rail transit mode:
> __ Rail - streetcar or trolley
> __ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
> __ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
>
> If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the
> viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst,
> please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a
> future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless
> you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this
> listserv with your observations!
>
> Ken Cervenka
> FTA Office of Planning and Environment
> 202/493-0512
>
>
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Hello,
As you may know, the Census Bureau's "means of transportation" question on the current American Community Survey questionnaire (as well as the previous Census 2000 "long form") is as follows:
How did this person usually get to work LAST WEEK? If this person usually used more than one method of transportation during the trip, mark (X) the box of the one used for most of the distance.
__ Car, truck, or van
__ Bus or trolley bus
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
__ Ferryboat
__ Taxicab
__ Motorcycle
__ Bicycle
__ Walked
__ Worked at home
__ Other method
Here at U.S. DOT, we (meaning FTA, FHWA, and BTS) are discussing whether updated descriptions might make more sense for the three public transportation categories associated with use of rail:
__ Streetcar or trolley car
__ Subway or elevated
__ Railroad
However, any changes to these three categories (or even collapsing these to a single "rail transit" category) will, if ultimately approved for testing, require a formal and carefully-controlled "ACS content change" test to be conducted by the Census Bureau in 2013 and 2014. So this is a very big deal. If three rail-related categories are maintained, here is one approach under consideration for future testing:
__ Streetcar or trolley rail
__ Subway, metro, or light rail
__ Commuter railroad or Amtrak
Or maybe a variation that makes it clear(er) each of these choices refer to a rail transit mode:
__ Rail - streetcar or trolley
__ Rail - subway, metro, or light rail
__ Rail - commuter railroad or Amtrak
If you have any comments about what seems to make the most sense from the viewpoint of a future ACS respondent and/or transportation data analyst, please send me an email and I will summarize all comments received in a future email to this listserv (along with your name as the author, unless you wish to be anonymous). But feel free to reply directly to this listserv with your observations!
Ken Cervenka
FTA Office of Planning and Environment
202/493-0512