P.S.- My second bullet is referring to the 1990 CTPP…OOPs!!
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Elaine, Krishnan, JJ-
Thank you very much for the data. I’m not sure what I will do with it. But, it is great to have.
I do have a couple of comments/questions….
· Am I mis-understanding the 1980 dataset? Shouldn’t the folder/sub-directory be named to reference San Jose rather than the San Joaquin Valley?
· Is there no data for the ‘West Region’?
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As JJ mentioned, we have only a few of the 1980 UTPP files available. I have attached the list of what we have.
They are (mostly) in flat ASCII.
Elaine
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Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Hi Everyone,
The 1990 CTPP Part 7 data, which include all states, are now available for download at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1990%20CTPP%20Part7/
The 1980 UPTT data are flat files and only available for certain MPOs. The data, along with a summary file for data sources and formats are also available at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1980UTPP/
Please use the user name and password for both sites:
username: CTPPreader
password: 2014ftpCTPP!
Thanks,
JJ
Jingjing(JJ) Zang
Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
4800 Hampden Lane, Suite 800
Bethesda, MD 20814
tel 301 347 0100
fax 301 347 0101
e-mail jzang(a)camsys.com<mailto:jzang(a)camsys.com>
www.camsys.com
From: Krishnan Viswanathan <krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com<mailto:krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com>>
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>,
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Date: 05/31/2015 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
________________________________
Elaine
Are there any plans to post the 1990 and 1980 data online so that interested parties can download the same?
Krishnan
On Fri, May 15, 2015, 2:06 PM <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov<mailto:Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov>> wrote:
1990 CTPP Part 7 at tract level! I did not remember that. I had Brian Gardner look for the CDs in my cubicle at USDOT Navy Yard. JJ Zang will pick them up in the later part of next week (after the TRB Planning applications conference) and make a copy for Chuck. There are 4 CDs and until we look at them, we will not know if all the states are included.
Elaine
p.s. Bob Paddock of Met Council found the 1980 UTPP file layouts and will be sending them to me! So, now we can write SAS code to read in the flat ASCII files.
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Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Chuck- I wonder if the 1990 CTPP part 7 will help. It had tracts at the workplace but I am not sure if it covered the the whole state. And then finding it is another issue. Here is what i found to atleast shed some light on part 7, see page 188.
http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf. I could not find any of my 1990 transview versions of the data. I know I have a complete set minus one state somewhere. If you can find one of the CDs even though you can not extract the data without the extraction software look on it to see if there are any PDF files with documentation stashed on it. I seem to recall that there is.
Sorry I could not be any more help right now.
On 5/15/2015 11:00 AM, Charles Purvis wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Ed or Elaine will probably be able to answer my question, but all might (or might not) be interested.
>
> I’m interested in developing a historical database showing tract-level data on total population, land area, and workers-at-workplace, for 1990, 2000 and 2006/10. I want this at a statewide (California) level, not just for the metropolitan areas. This is part of an ongoing research project on describing changes in rural/suburban/urban patterns in California (perhaps elsewhere, as well).
>
> The 2006/10 CTPP includes a tract-level summary level, so I have been able to obtain a statewide, census tract level file of workers-at-work from Part 2 tables.
>
> Similarly, about 11 years ago I extracted a block group-level file of population (Census SF3) and workers-at-work (CTPP 2000, Part 2), which is easily aggregated to census tract level.
>
> The 1990 CTPP is the first “nationwide” CTPP product. The “statewide” element includes place-to-place, county-to-county for ALL counties in the USA, including rural (non-metropolitan) counties. On the other hand, the “urban” elements of the CTPP is restricted to metropolitan counties, and the finest level geographies are either TAZ, block group or census tract. Whether or not the TAZes aggregate to census tracts is unknown.
>
> So, am I correct to assume that the Part 2 (workplace tables) from the 1990 CTPP do NOT include tract-of-work data for non-metropolitan counties? That’s my central question.
>
> A secondary question is: is there a scanned/PDF version of the 1990
> CTPP documentation? (I searched my old website, and I don’t think I
> have it in electronic format….)
>
> I know that the 1980 UTPP was only completed for metropolitan areas, on a cost-reimbursable basis. Some MPOs in California didn’t participate in the 1980 program.
>
> That’s all for now!
>
> Chuck Purvis
> retired-MTC
>
>
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Sorry, but the username/password for the 1990 data isn't working.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Jingjing Zang <JZang(a)camsys.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> The 1990 CTPP Part 7 data, which include all states, are now available for
> download at:
> ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1990%20CTPP%20Part7/
>
> The 1980 UPTT data are flat files and only available for certain MPOs. The
> data, along with a summary file for data sources and formats are also
> available at:
> ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1980UTPP/
>
> Please use the user name and password for both sites:
> username: CTPPreader
> password: 2014ftpCTPP!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> JJ
>
>
>
> Jingjing(JJ) Zang
> Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
> 4800 Hampden Lane, Suite 800
> Bethesda, MD 20814
> tel 301 347 0100
> fax 301 347 0101
> e-mail jzang(a)camsys.com
> www.camsys.com
>
>
>
> From: Krishnan Viswanathan <krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com>
> To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net,
> Cc: JZang(a)camsys.com
> Date: 05/31/2015 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Elaine
>
> Are there any plans to post the 1990 and 1980 data online so that
> interested parties can download the same?
>
> Krishnan
>
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2015, 2:06 PM <*Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov*
> <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov>> wrote:
> 1990 CTPP Part 7 at tract level! I did not remember that. I had Brian
> Gardner look for the CDs in my cubicle at USDOT Navy Yard. JJ Zang will
> pick them up in the later part of next week (after the TRB Planning
> applications conference) and make a copy for Chuck. There are 4 CDs and
> until we look at them, we will not know if all the states are included.
>
> Elaine
>
> p.s. Bob Paddock of Met Council found the 1980 UTPP file layouts and will
> be sending them to me! So, now we can write SAS code to read in the flat
> ASCII files.
>
>
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> To: *ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net* <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
> Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
>
> Chuck- I wonder if the 1990 CTPP part 7 will help. It had tracts at the
> workplace but I am not sure if it covered the the whole state. And then
> finding it is another issue. Here is what i found to atleast shed some
> light on part 7, see page 188.
> *http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf*
> <http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf>. I could not
> find any of my 1990 transview versions of the data. I know I have a
> complete set minus one state somewhere. If you can find one of the CDs
> even though you can not extract the data without the extraction software
> look on it to see if there are any PDF files with documentation stashed on
> it. I seem to recall that there is.
>
> Sorry I could not be any more help right now.
>
> On 5/15/2015 11:00 AM, Charles Purvis wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Ed or Elaine will probably be able to answer my question, but all might
> (or might not) be interested.
> >
> > I’m interested in developing a historical database showing tract-level
> data on total population, land area, and workers-at-workplace, for 1990,
> 2000 and 2006/10. I want this at a statewide (California) level, not just
> for the metropolitan areas. This is part of an ongoing research project on
> describing changes in rural/suburban/urban patterns in California (perhaps
> elsewhere, as well).
> >
> > The 2006/10 CTPP includes a tract-level summary level, so I have been
> able to obtain a statewide, census tract level file of workers-at-work from
> Part 2 tables.
> >
> > Similarly, about 11 years ago I extracted a block group-level file of
> population (Census SF3) and workers-at-work (CTPP 2000, Part 2), which is
> easily aggregated to census tract level.
> >
> > The 1990 CTPP is the first “nationwide” CTPP product. The “statewide”
> element includes place-to-place, county-to-county for ALL counties in the
> USA, including rural (non-metropolitan) counties. On the other hand, the
> “urban” elements of the CTPP is restricted to metropolitan counties, and
> the finest level geographies are either TAZ, block group or census tract.
> Whether or not the TAZes aggregate to census tracts is unknown.
> >
> > So, am I correct to assume that the Part 2 (workplace tables) from the
> 1990 CTPP do NOT include tract-of-work data for non-metropolitan counties?
> That’s my central question.
> >
> > A secondary question is: is there a scanned/PDF version of the 1990
> > CTPP documentation? (I searched my old website, and I don’t think I
> > have it in electronic format….)
> >
> > I know that the 1980 UTPP was only completed for metropolitan areas, on
> a cost-reimbursable basis. Some MPOs in California didn’t participate in
> the 1980 program.
> >
> > That’s all for now!
> >
> > Chuck Purvis
> > retired-MTC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Elaine, Krishnan, JJ-
Thank you very much for the data. I’m not sure what I will do with it. But, it is great to have.
I do have a couple of comments/questions….
· Am I mis-understanding the 1980 dataset? Shouldn’t the folder/sub-directory be named to reference San Jose rather than the San Joaquin Valley?
· Is there no data for the ‘West Region’?
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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 12:34 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
As JJ mentioned, we have only a few of the 1980 UTPP files available. I have attached the list of what we have.
They are (mostly) in flat ASCII.
Elaine
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Jingjing Zang
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 10:40 AM
To: Krishnan Viswanathan
Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Hi Everyone,
The 1990 CTPP Part 7 data, which include all states, are now available for download at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1990%20CTPP%20Part7/
The 1980 UPTT data are flat files and only available for certain MPOs. The data, along with a summary file for data sources and formats are also available at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1980UTPP/
Please use the user name and password for both sites:
username: CTPPreader
password: 2014ftpCTPP!
Thanks,
JJ
Jingjing(JJ) Zang
Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
4800 Hampden Lane, Suite 800
Bethesda, MD 20814
tel 301 347 0100
fax 301 347 0101
e-mail jzang(a)camsys.com<mailto:jzang(a)camsys.com>
www.camsys.com
From: Krishnan Viswanathan <krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com<mailto:krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com>>
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>,
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Date: 05/31/2015 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
________________________________
Elaine
Are there any plans to post the 1990 and 1980 data online so that interested parties can download the same?
Krishnan
On Fri, May 15, 2015, 2:06 PM <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov<mailto:Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov>> wrote:
1990 CTPP Part 7 at tract level! I did not remember that. I had Brian Gardner look for the CDs in my cubicle at USDOT Navy Yard. JJ Zang will pick them up in the later part of next week (after the TRB Planning applications conference) and make a copy for Chuck. There are 4 CDs and until we look at them, we will not know if all the states are included.
Elaine
p.s. Bob Paddock of Met Council found the 1980 UTPP file layouts and will be sending them to me! So, now we can write SAS code to read in the flat ASCII files.
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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Chuck- I wonder if the 1990 CTPP part 7 will help. It had tracts at the workplace but I am not sure if it covered the the whole state. And then finding it is another issue. Here is what i found to atleast shed some light on part 7, see page 188.
http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf. I could not find any of my 1990 transview versions of the data. I know I have a complete set minus one state somewhere. If you can find one of the CDs even though you can not extract the data without the extraction software look on it to see if there are any PDF files with documentation stashed on it. I seem to recall that there is.
Sorry I could not be any more help right now.
On 5/15/2015 11:00 AM, Charles Purvis wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Ed or Elaine will probably be able to answer my question, but all might (or might not) be interested.
>
> I’m interested in developing a historical database showing tract-level data on total population, land area, and workers-at-workplace, for 1990, 2000 and 2006/10. I want this at a statewide (California) level, not just for the metropolitan areas. This is part of an ongoing research project on describing changes in rural/suburban/urban patterns in California (perhaps elsewhere, as well).
>
> The 2006/10 CTPP includes a tract-level summary level, so I have been able to obtain a statewide, census tract level file of workers-at-work from Part 2 tables.
>
> Similarly, about 11 years ago I extracted a block group-level file of population (Census SF3) and workers-at-work (CTPP 2000, Part 2), which is easily aggregated to census tract level.
>
> The 1990 CTPP is the first “nationwide” CTPP product. The “statewide” element includes place-to-place, county-to-county for ALL counties in the USA, including rural (non-metropolitan) counties. On the other hand, the “urban” elements of the CTPP is restricted to metropolitan counties, and the finest level geographies are either TAZ, block group or census tract. Whether or not the TAZes aggregate to census tracts is unknown.
>
> So, am I correct to assume that the Part 2 (workplace tables) from the 1990 CTPP do NOT include tract-of-work data for non-metropolitan counties? That’s my central question.
>
> A secondary question is: is there a scanned/PDF version of the 1990
> CTPP documentation? (I searched my old website, and I don’t think I
> have it in electronic format….)
>
> I know that the 1980 UTPP was only completed for metropolitan areas, on a cost-reimbursable basis. Some MPOs in California didn’t participate in the 1980 program.
>
> That’s all for now!
>
> Chuck Purvis
> retired-MTC
>
>
>
>
>
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As JJ mentioned, we have only a few of the 1980 UTPP files available. I have attached the list of what we have.
They are (mostly) in flat ASCII.
Elaine
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Jingjing Zang
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 10:40 AM
To: Krishnan Viswanathan
Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Hi Everyone,
The 1990 CTPP Part 7 data, which include all states, are now available for download at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1990%20CTPP%20Part7/
The 1980 UPTT data are flat files and only available for certain MPOs. The data, along with a summary file for data sources and formats are also available at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1980UTPP/
Please use the user name and password for both sites:
username: CTPPreader
password: 2014ftpCTPP!
Thanks,
JJ
Jingjing(JJ) Zang
Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
4800 Hampden Lane, Suite 800
Bethesda, MD 20814
tel 301 347 0100
fax 301 347 0101
e-mail jzang(a)camsys.com<mailto:jzang(a)camsys.com>
www.camsys.com
From: Krishnan Viswanathan <krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com<mailto:krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com>>
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>,
Cc: JZang(a)camsys.com<mailto:JZang(a)camsys.com>
Date: 05/31/2015 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
________________________________
Elaine
Are there any plans to post the 1990 and 1980 data online so that interested parties can download the same?
Krishnan
On Fri, May 15, 2015, 2:06 PM <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov<mailto:Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov>> wrote:
1990 CTPP Part 7 at tract level! I did not remember that. I had Brian Gardner look for the CDs in my cubicle at USDOT Navy Yard. JJ Zang will pick them up in the later part of next week (after the TRB Planning applications conference) and make a copy for Chuck. There are 4 CDs and until we look at them, we will not know if all the states are included.
Elaine
p.s. Bob Paddock of Met Council found the 1980 UTPP file layouts and will be sending them to me! So, now we can write SAS code to read in the flat ASCII files.
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Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Chuck- I wonder if the 1990 CTPP part 7 will help. It had tracts at the workplace but I am not sure if it covered the the whole state. And then finding it is another issue. Here is what i found to atleast shed some light on part 7, see page 188.
http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf. I could not find any of my 1990 transview versions of the data. I know I have a complete set minus one state somewhere. If you can find one of the CDs even though you can not extract the data without the extraction software look on it to see if there are any PDF files with documentation stashed on it. I seem to recall that there is.
Sorry I could not be any more help right now.
On 5/15/2015 11:00 AM, Charles Purvis wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Ed or Elaine will probably be able to answer my question, but all might (or might not) be interested.
>
> I’m interested in developing a historical database showing tract-level data on total population, land area, and workers-at-workplace, for 1990, 2000 and 2006/10. I want this at a statewide (California) level, not just for the metropolitan areas. This is part of an ongoing research project on describing changes in rural/suburban/urban patterns in California (perhaps elsewhere, as well).
>
> The 2006/10 CTPP includes a tract-level summary level, so I have been able to obtain a statewide, census tract level file of workers-at-work from Part 2 tables.
>
> Similarly, about 11 years ago I extracted a block group-level file of population (Census SF3) and workers-at-work (CTPP 2000, Part 2), which is easily aggregated to census tract level.
>
> The 1990 CTPP is the first “nationwide” CTPP product. The “statewide” element includes place-to-place, county-to-county for ALL counties in the USA, including rural (non-metropolitan) counties. On the other hand, the “urban” elements of the CTPP is restricted to metropolitan counties, and the finest level geographies are either TAZ, block group or census tract. Whether or not the TAZes aggregate to census tracts is unknown.
>
> So, am I correct to assume that the Part 2 (workplace tables) from the 1990 CTPP do NOT include tract-of-work data for non-metropolitan counties? That’s my central question.
>
> A secondary question is: is there a scanned/PDF version of the 1990
> CTPP documentation? (I searched my old website, and I don’t think I
> have it in electronic format….)
>
> I know that the 1980 UTPP was only completed for metropolitan areas, on a cost-reimbursable basis. Some MPOs in California didn’t participate in the 1980 program.
>
> That’s all for now!
>
> Chuck Purvis
> retired-MTC
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Everyone,
The 1990 CTPP Part 7 data, which include all states, are now available for
download at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1990%20CTPP%20Part7/
The 1980 UPTT data are flat files and only available for certain MPOs. The
data, along with a summary file for data sources and formats are also
available at:
ftp://ftp.camsys.com/clientsupport/CTPPdata/1980UTPP/
Please use the user name and password for both sites:
username: CTPPreader
password: 2014ftpCTPP!
Thanks,
JJ
Jingjing(JJ) Zang
Cambridge Systematics, Inc.
4800 Hampden Lane, Suite 800
Bethesda, MD 20814
tel 301 347 0100
fax 301 347 0101
e-mail jzang(a)camsys.comwww.camsys.com
From: Krishnan Viswanathan <krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com>
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net,
Cc: JZang(a)camsys.com
Date: 05/31/2015 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Elaine
Are there any plans to post the 1990 and 1980 data online so that
interested parties can download the same?
Krishnan
On Fri, May 15, 2015, 2:06 PM <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov> wrote:
1990 CTPP Part 7 at tract level! I did not remember that. I had Brian
Gardner look for the CDs in my cubicle at USDOT Navy Yard. JJ Zang will
pick them up in the later part of next week (after the TRB Planning
applications conference) and make a copy for Chuck. There are 4 CDs and
until we look at them, we will not know if all the states are included.
Elaine
p.s. Bob Paddock of Met Council found the 1980 UTPP file layouts and will
be sending them to me! So, now we can write SAS code to read in the flat
ASCII files.
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net]
On Behalf Of Ed Christopher
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
Chuck- I wonder if the 1990 CTPP part 7 will help. It had tracts at the
workplace but I am not sure if it covered the the whole state. And then
finding it is another issue. Here is what i found to atleast shed some
light on part 7, see page 188.
http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf. I could not
find any of my 1990 transview versions of the data. I know I have a
complete set minus one state somewhere. If you can find one of the CDs
even though you can not extract the data without the extraction software
look on it to see if there are any PDF files with documentation stashed on
it. I seem to recall that there is.
Sorry I could not be any more help right now.
On 5/15/2015 11:00 AM, Charles Purvis wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Ed or Elaine will probably be able to answer my question, but all might
(or might not) be interested.
>
> I’m interested in developing a historical database showing tract-level
data on total population, land area, and workers-at-workplace, for 1990,
2000 and 2006/10. I want this at a statewide (California) level, not just
for the metropolitan areas. This is part of an ongoing research project on
describing changes in rural/suburban/urban patterns in California (perhaps
elsewhere, as well).
>
> The 2006/10 CTPP includes a tract-level summary level, so I have been
able to obtain a statewide, census tract level file of workers-at-work
from Part 2 tables.
>
> Similarly, about 11 years ago I extracted a block group-level file of
population (Census SF3) and workers-at-work (CTPP 2000, Part 2), which is
easily aggregated to census tract level.
>
> The 1990 CTPP is the first “nationwide” CTPP product. The “statewide”
element includes place-to-place, county-to-county for ALL counties in the
USA, including rural (non-metropolitan) counties. On the other hand, the
“urban” elements of the CTPP is restricted to metropolitan counties, and
the finest level geographies are either TAZ, block group or census tract.
Whether or not the TAZes aggregate to census tracts is unknown.
>
> So, am I correct to assume that the Part 2 (workplace tables) from the
1990 CTPP do NOT include tract-of-work data for non-metropolitan counties?
That’s my central question.
>
> A secondary question is: is there a scanned/PDF version of the 1990
> CTPP documentation? (I searched my old website, and I don’t think I
> have it in electronic format….)
>
> I know that the 1980 UTPP was only completed for metropolitan areas, on
a cost-reimbursable basis. Some MPOs in California didn’t participate in
the 1980 program.
>
> That’s all for now!
>
> Chuck Purvis
> retired-MTC
>
>
>
>
>
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If the Michigan tract to tract files can be found for 1980 and/or 1990, I'd
sure be interested in having them.
I did not see anything on the attached Word file.
Patty Becker
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Krishnan Viswanathan <
krisviswanathan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Elaine
>
> Are there any plans to post the 1990 and 1980 data online so that
> interested parties can download the same?
>
> Krishnan
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2015, 2:06 PM <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov> wrote:
>
>> 1990 CTPP Part 7 at tract level! I did not remember that. I had
>> Brian Gardner look for the CDs in my cubicle at USDOT Navy Yard. JJ Zang
>> will pick them up in the later part of next week (after the TRB Planning
>> applications conference) and make a copy for Chuck. There are 4 CDs and
>> until we look at them, we will not know if all the states are included.
>>
>> Elaine
>>
>> p.s. Bob Paddock of Met Council found the 1980 UTPP file layouts and
>> will be sending them to me! So, now we can write SAS code to read in the
>> flat ASCII files.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net]
>> On Behalf Of Ed Christopher
>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 AM
>> To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
>> Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
>>
>> Chuck- I wonder if the 1990 CTPP part 7 will help. It had tracts at the
>> workplace but I am not sure if it covered the the whole state. And then
>> finding it is another issue. Here is what i found to atleast shed some
>> light on part 7, see page 188.
>> http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf. I could not
>> find any of my 1990 transview versions of the data. I know I have a
>> complete set minus one state somewhere. If you can find one of the CDs
>> even though you can not extract the data without the extraction software
>> look on it to see if there are any PDF files with documentation stashed on
>> it. I seem to recall that there is.
>>
>> Sorry I could not be any more help right now.
>>
>> On 5/15/2015 11:00 AM, Charles Purvis wrote:
>> > Hi all!
>> >
>> > Ed or Elaine will probably be able to answer my question, but all might
>> (or might not) be interested.
>> >
>> > I’m interested in developing a historical database showing tract-level
>> data on total population, land area, and workers-at-workplace, for 1990,
>> 2000 and 2006/10. I want this at a statewide (California) level, not just
>> for the metropolitan areas. This is part of an ongoing research project on
>> describing changes in rural/suburban/urban patterns in California (perhaps
>> elsewhere, as well).
>> >
>> > The 2006/10 CTPP includes a tract-level summary level, so I have been
>> able to obtain a statewide, census tract level file of workers-at-work from
>> Part 2 tables.
>> >
>> > Similarly, about 11 years ago I extracted a block group-level file of
>> population (Census SF3) and workers-at-work (CTPP 2000, Part 2), which is
>> easily aggregated to census tract level.
>> >
>> > The 1990 CTPP is the first “nationwide” CTPP product. The “statewide”
>> element includes place-to-place, county-to-county for ALL counties in the
>> USA, including rural (non-metropolitan) counties. On the other hand, the
>> “urban” elements of the CTPP is restricted to metropolitan counties, and
>> the finest level geographies are either TAZ, block group or census tract.
>> Whether or not the TAZes aggregate to census tracts is unknown.
>> >
>> > So, am I correct to assume that the Part 2 (workplace tables) from the
>> 1990 CTPP do NOT include tract-of-work data for non-metropolitan counties?
>> That’s my central question.
>> >
>> > A secondary question is: is there a scanned/PDF version of the 1990
>> > CTPP documentation? (I searched my old website, and I don’t think I
>> > have it in electronic format….)
>> >
>> > I know that the 1980 UTPP was only completed for metropolitan areas, on
>> a cost-reimbursable basis. Some MPOs in California didn’t participate in
>> the 1980 program.
>> >
>> > That’s all for now!
>> >
>> > Chuck Purvis
>> > retired-MTC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > ctpp-news mailing list
>> > ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
>> > https://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news
>>
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Elaine
Are there any plans to post the 1990 and 1980 data online so that
interested parties can download the same?
Krishnan
On Fri, May 15, 2015, 2:06 PM <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov> wrote:
> 1990 CTPP Part 7 at tract level! I did not remember that. I had Brian
> Gardner look for the CDs in my cubicle at USDOT Navy Yard. JJ Zang will
> pick them up in the later part of next week (after the TRB Planning
> applications conference) and make a copy for Chuck. There are 4 CDs and
> until we look at them, we will not know if all the states are included.
>
> Elaine
>
> p.s. Bob Paddock of Met Council found the 1980 UTPP file layouts and will
> be sending them to me! So, now we can write SAS code to read in the flat
> ASCII files.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net]
> On Behalf Of Ed Christopher
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 AM
> To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
> Subject: Re: [CTPP] 1990 and 2000 CTPP contents
>
> Chuck- I wonder if the 1990 CTPP part 7 will help. It had tracts at the
> workplace but I am not sure if it covered the the whole state. And then
> finding it is another issue. Here is what i found to atleast shed some
> light on part 7, see page 188.
> http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/conf/1995/cp4/cp4.pdf. I could not
> find any of my 1990 transview versions of the data. I know I have a
> complete set minus one state somewhere. If you can find one of the CDs
> even though you can not extract the data without the extraction software
> look on it to see if there are any PDF files with documentation stashed on
> it. I seem to recall that there is.
>
> Sorry I could not be any more help right now.
>
> On 5/15/2015 11:00 AM, Charles Purvis wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Ed or Elaine will probably be able to answer my question, but all might
> (or might not) be interested.
> >
> > I’m interested in developing a historical database showing tract-level
> data on total population, land area, and workers-at-workplace, for 1990,
> 2000 and 2006/10. I want this at a statewide (California) level, not just
> for the metropolitan areas. This is part of an ongoing research project on
> describing changes in rural/suburban/urban patterns in California (perhaps
> elsewhere, as well).
> >
> > The 2006/10 CTPP includes a tract-level summary level, so I have been
> able to obtain a statewide, census tract level file of workers-at-work from
> Part 2 tables.
> >
> > Similarly, about 11 years ago I extracted a block group-level file of
> population (Census SF3) and workers-at-work (CTPP 2000, Part 2), which is
> easily aggregated to census tract level.
> >
> > The 1990 CTPP is the first “nationwide” CTPP product. The “statewide”
> element includes place-to-place, county-to-county for ALL counties in the
> USA, including rural (non-metropolitan) counties. On the other hand, the
> “urban” elements of the CTPP is restricted to metropolitan counties, and
> the finest level geographies are either TAZ, block group or census tract.
> Whether or not the TAZes aggregate to census tracts is unknown.
> >
> > So, am I correct to assume that the Part 2 (workplace tables) from the
> 1990 CTPP do NOT include tract-of-work data for non-metropolitan counties?
> That’s my central question.
> >
> > A secondary question is: is there a scanned/PDF version of the 1990
> > CTPP documentation? (I searched my old website, and I don’t think I
> > have it in electronic format….)
> >
> > I know that the 1980 UTPP was only completed for metropolitan areas, on
> a cost-reimbursable basis. Some MPOs in California didn’t participate in
> the 1980 program.
> >
> > That’s all for now!
> >
> > Chuck Purvis
> > retired-MTC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ctpp-news mailing list
> > ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
> > https://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news
>
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