Thanks for the update Ed
Will 2010 TAZ Definition probably be based on 2009 TIGER line files? Or
use the next round of TIGER line files, e.g., 2011?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
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Hi,
I'm trying to find a source for the CTPP Access Tool software.
Is there a place I can download the software?
If not, where I can obtain the software?
I'm working on a project for school.
Steven Vance
University of Illinois at Chicago
Master's Candidate, Urban Planning and Policy
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Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:18:09 -0500
From: Ed Christopher <edc(a)berwyned.com>
Subject: [CTPP] 2009 TIGER/Line Shapefiles released today; info on
2010,TIGER/LineShapefiles
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FYI--Besides the 2009 Tiger Files it looks like we will have the new
2010 Files before the 2010 Block population counts come out in around
March of 2011. This is good news. Just yesterday I was in a meeting
where the question came up.
==================
The Census Bureau has released 2009 TIGER/Line Shapefiles today.
Available here: http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/
This will be the last public release of TIGER data until early 2011.
This early 2011 release will include all of the updated 2010 tabulation
geography that serves as the geographic framework for 2010 Census data
tabulations (including the new 2010 Census tracts, block groups, blocks,
voting districts, and much more). Around the same time as this 2011
geospatial data release, Census will be releasing the tabular data with
2010 Census population counts down to the Census block level. See the
attached document for more information, including changes under
consideration and a request for input.
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708-283-3534 (V)
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Hi,
I'm trying to find a source for the CTPP Access Tool software.
Is there a place I can download the software?
If not, where I can obtain the software?
I'm working on a project for school.
Steven Vance
University of Illinois at Chicago
Master's Candidate, Urban Planning and Policy
a logical person would then ask why aren't the questions that BLS or CPS
uses part of the acs? would this increase the level of confidence and
reliability of these data?
>>> edc(a)berwyned.com 9/30/2009 7:23 PM >>>
Earlier this week I was part of an email chain where it was discovered
that with the new 2008 ACS data which was just release there was a
national change in workers from 2007 of about 4.8 million for a growth
of about 3.4 percent. Of course this seemed odd given the year that we
have been through. I further learned that BLS was showing a loss of
workers during the same time which prompted me to pass the issue over
to
Melissa Chiu our CTPP coordinator at the Census Bureau. Here is what
Melissa had to say.
Hi Ed,
I spoke with the subject matter branch chief and it turns out that the
Bureau recommends using caution when making labor force comparisons
between data from 2008 or later and data from prior years (make sure to
look at the footnote at the bottom of the labor force tables). This is
because there was a question change starting in 2008 that results in
more people responding that they worked last week. The question in use
before 2008 missed many marginal workers. Essentially the data are
better now and this also puts the ACS data more in line with the
Current
Population Survey (CPS)-based BLS data. In addition, as far as labor
force estimates go, the BLS data are considered the official estimates,
and many more questions are asked on the CPS regarding employment than
on the ACS. So there may still be differences between CPS and ACS due
to
this and other issues.
There is more information on this question change in the research
note:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/laborfor/researchnote092209.html
The note references the following 2006 content test report that
resulted
in the question change:
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/AdvMeth/content_test/P6a_Employment_Status.pdf
Finally, for other information on labor force data, please start here:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/laborfor/laborforce.html
I hope this helps. If you have further questions, please let me know
and
I will refer you to the appropriate person.
Thanks, Melissa
--
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708-574-8131 (cell)
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Earlier this week I was part of an email chain where it was discovered
that with the new 2008 ACS data which was just release there was a
national change in workers from 2007 of about 4.8 million for a growth
of about 3.4 percent. Of course this seemed odd given the year that we
have been through. I further learned that BLS was showing a loss of
workers during the same time which prompted me to pass the issue over to
Melissa Chiu our CTPP coordinator at the Census Bureau. Here is what
Melissa had to say.
Hi Ed,
I spoke with the subject matter branch chief and it turns out that the
Bureau recommends using caution when making labor force comparisons
between data from 2008 or later and data from prior years (make sure to
look at the footnote at the bottom of the labor force tables). This is
because there was a question change starting in 2008 that results in
more people responding that they worked last week. The question in use
before 2008 missed many marginal workers. Essentially the data are
better now and this also puts the ACS data more in line with the Current
Population Survey (CPS)-based BLS data. In addition, as far as labor
force estimates go, the BLS data are considered the official estimates,
and many more questions are asked on the CPS regarding employment than
on the ACS. So there may still be differences between CPS and ACS due to
this and other issues.
There is more information on this question change in the research note:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/laborfor/researchnote092209.html
The note references the following 2006 content test report that resulted
in the question change:
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/AdvMeth/content_test/P6a_Employment_Status.pdf
Finally, for other information on labor force data, please start here:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/laborfor/laborforce.html
I hope this helps. If you have further questions, please let me know and
I will refer you to the appropriate person.
Thanks, Melissa
--
Ed Christopher
708-283-3534 (V)
708-574-8131 (cell)
FHWA RC-TST-PLN
4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600
Matteson, IL 60443
The most recent CTPP "Status Report" Newsletter is now posted. It is
available as a PDF at
http://www.trbcensus.com/newsltr/sr0909.pdf
or in html at
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ctpp/sr0909.htm
If you are wondering what the AASHTO CTPP Oversight Board is up to, or
what we know about the Census Bureau's plans to update Urbanized Areas,
you will want to give the newsletter a look. There are also articles on
several research efforts underway, some new data products and the latest
on the National Household Travel Survey.
--
Ed Christopher
708-283-3534 (V)
708-574-8131 (cell)
FHWA RC-TST-PLN
4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600
Matteson, IL 60443
Paul--If this is the crash you get right after selecting your tables
just take the crash message box and slide it off to the side and keep going.
Last week we had a similar thread and some people were reporting
problems with Vista. I would suggest going to the archives for
additional information on the subject.
http://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news
Agnello, Paul wrote:
> Thanks for the update Jonathan,
>
> We are still using Windows XP and have the same problem with the CTPP
> browser always crashing when creating a new file. It's good to know that
> this problem appears to not exist with Vista.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Paul Agnello
> Travel Demand Modeling Manager
> VDOT Transportation & Mobility Planning Division (TMPD)
> (804) 786-2531
>
Paul, in response to your response. Please remember that Vista didn't
eliminate the crashing problem, it just reduced it. Also, I got a new
computer when I went to Vista, and it's possible the bug was a hidden "dll"
or other file in my old computer, which Nanda Srinivasan had said might be
the cause of my troubles.
Also, be prepared as you go to Vista, because if you also go to Office 2007,
it takes some learning. A year and a half down the road, I think the new
versions of Excel and Access are a little more efficient once you learn
them, but they're quite a bit different and will slow you down for the first
2-3 months. The new pivot table system in Excel is more fun and easier to
use - once you learn it! At least that was my experience.
Jonathan
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Thanks for the update Jonathan,
We are still using Windows XP and have the same problem with the CTPP
browser always crashing when creating a new file. It's good to know that
this problem appears to not exist with Vista.
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Travel Demand Modeling Manager
VDOT Transportation & Mobility Planning Division (TMPD)
(804) 786-2531
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I got Windows Vista a year or two and - to my surprise - have had fewer
problems than before. In fact, the CTPP browser's performance has gotten
better. With Windows 2000, the browser would always crash when
generating a
new file. I could still use it, because I could re-open the browser, and
the
newly generated file would appear as if nothing had gone wrong. With
Windows
Vista, the crashes have dropped from 100% of the time to about 30%, so
it's
an improvement.
Don't ask me what this means - I don't know. Just wanted to share my
experiences with the group.
Jonathan Lupton
Research Planner
Metroplan
Little Rock AR
With Windows 2000
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Ed:
>Has anyone tried to load the CTPP 2000 Browser on a Windows Vista
>machine? I just got wind that it might not work.
I want to remind you that TransCAD users have ready access to the 2000
CTPP
data. TransCAD provides Table Choosers for Parts 1 and 2, and a Matrix
Chooser for Part 3. The data for Parts 1 and 2 are available for
download
from the TransCAD User Center, and the data for Part 3 can be requested
from TransCAD Tech Support.
If you have 1990 CTPP Data CDs, TransCAD has a utility for opening Part
A,
B and C tables from the Statewide Element and Part 1, 2 and 3 tables
from
the Urban Element.
There are also TransCAD Table Choosers for ACS data. We are building the
Table Chooser for the 2008 ACS 1-year data that were released yesterday
and
will do the same for the 3-year data that will be released next month.
Peter
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Thanks for the update Jonathan,
We are still using Windows XP and have the same problem with the CTPP
browser always crashing when creating a new file. It's good to know that
this problem appears to not exist with Vista.
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Travel Demand Modeling Manager
VDOT Transportation & Mobility Planning Division (TMPD)
(804) 786-2531
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I got Windows Vista a year or two and - to my surprise - have had fewer
problems than before. In fact, the CTPP browser's performance has gotten
better. With Windows 2000, the browser would always crash when
generating a
new file. I could still use it, because I could re-open the browser, and
the
newly generated file would appear as if nothing had gone wrong. With
Windows
Vista, the crashes have dropped from 100% of the time to about 30%, so
it's
an improvement.
Don't ask me what this means - I don't know. Just wanted to share my
experiences with the group.
Jonathan Lupton
Research Planner
Metroplan
Little Rock AR
With Windows 2000
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Ed:
>Has anyone tried to load the CTPP 2000 Browser on a Windows Vista
>machine? I just got wind that it might not work.
I want to remind you that TransCAD users have ready access to the 2000
CTPP
data. TransCAD provides Table Choosers for Parts 1 and 2, and a Matrix
Chooser for Part 3. The data for Parts 1 and 2 are available for
download
from the TransCAD User Center, and the data for Part 3 can be requested
from TransCAD Tech Support.
If you have 1990 CTPP Data CDs, TransCAD has a utility for opening Part
A,
B and C tables from the Statewide Element and Part 1, 2 and 3 tables
from
the Urban Element.
There are also TransCAD Table Choosers for ACS data. We are building the
Table Chooser for the 2008 ACS 1-year data that were released yesterday
and
will do the same for the 3-year data that will be released next month.
Peter
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Attached is a new issue of the CTPP Status Report.
The first CTPP data products using the American Community Survey (ACS)
are expected in late Spring/early Summer 2010. The Census Bureau gave
final approval of the CTPP table set in April 2009, after prolonged
discussion with the Census Bureau's Disclosure Review Board and
significant paring down of the list. This CTPP uses three years
(2006-2007-2008) of the ACS and is limited to large geographic area,
that is, it does not include tabulation for census tracts or TAZs.
Hope you will have a chance to look at the Profile sheets (see page 6 of
the status report) that use the Census 2000, CTPP2000, and 2005-2007 ACS
data.
Previous issues of the CTPP Status Reports are available at:
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ctpp/status.htm
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
Ed:
>Has anyone tried to load the CTPP 2000 Browser on a Windows Vista
>machine? I just got wind that it might not work.
I want to remind you that TransCAD users have ready access to the 2000 CTPP
data. TransCAD provides Table Choosers for Parts 1 and 2, and a Matrix
Chooser for Part 3. The data for Parts 1 and 2 are available for download
from the TransCAD User Center, and the data for Part 3 can be requested
from TransCAD Tech Support.
If you have 1990 CTPP Data CDs, TransCAD has a utility for opening Part A,
B and C tables from the Statewide Element and Part 1, 2 and 3 tables from
the Urban Element.
There are also TransCAD Table Choosers for ACS data. We are building the
Table Chooser for the 2008 ACS 1-year data that were released yesterday and
will do the same for the 3-year data that will be released next month.
Peter
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