The reason we use this list serve is to promote efficient communication and
exchange of ideas. List services are based on the premise of people having
the option to reply or using the information they find. If you don't like
it delete it, but don't stop using the service for your input may be
crucial to some future issue. By removing yourself from the group you
diminish the over knowledge base and the effectiveness of this service.
Thanks
Chad Ives
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
> Behalf Of Patty Becker
>
> I want to apologize to everyone who perceived that there was
> too much stuff
> floating across the list today. I was really at a loss to
> know whether to
> respond Bob LaMacchia privately or on the list, since his
> messages had come
> through to the list. After a point, it was clear to me that this
> discussion did not need to be on the list, and so I messaged
> Bob privately
> and told him that. The discussion is over.
Neither you nor Bob owe anyone any apologies for anything you wrote -- not
in quantity and certainly not in quality. For those of us who are affected
greatly by the decisions about CTPP data, it is very helpful to understand
some of the background -- even the disputes -- about this very sensitive
issue. When I go back to my MPO Committees and Board to explain that we
will now have to spend several tens of thousands of dollars for an expanded
O-D study next year, I definitely want to be able to answer any questions
they may have -- especially because for the past three years, we have
anticipated receiving useful data from the CTPP.
> I will still be most happy to answer questions that people
> have. Perhaps,
> however, it's better to do it off list than on list. Also, I
> will be out
> of the office and email contact from this Thursday, Jan. 30, through
> February 11.
I think a full and public airing of these issues is exactly the kind of
information which SHOULD be part of the discussions on this List; and to
those who left in a huff -- good riddance to narrow minds. My thanks to you
and to Bob for your candor, and I would appreciate it if you would continue
such discussions on the List where I can read them and try to better
understand the large and small issues involved.
Bill Moore, M.ITE, Senior Transportation Planner
Pueblo MPO - City of Pueblo
Dept. of Planning and Community Development
211 E. D Street, P.O. Box 1427
Pueblo, CO 81003
Phone: (719) 583-4485 FAX: (719) 543-0572
E-mail: bmoore(a)ci.pueblo.co.us
I want to thank the group who spontaneously without hesitation, participated
the discussion to expressively sent their response on the census idea and
concept they thought would provide information helpful to others.
I'm not in any way oppose to this free expression of ideas and concept. I
don't want it, be stop or changes. Thanks a lot to those who unselfishly
join the fray. More power to all of you, who willingly tried to share those
concepts and ideas to all of us.
Keep me in, I believed those ideas are valuable information. Many Thanks
again.
R. B. Manubay, P.E.
Transportation System Engineer
Planning Division
Idaho Transportation Department
Please keep me on the list. If it wasn't for CTPP, I wouldn't get any
e-mails. I'm glad that somebody actually thinks about this stuff and is
willing to discuss it. The only way it could get any better is if somebody
would include pictures. Thanks.
Al V.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gardner, John F [mailto:GardnerJF(a)dot.state.sc.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:18 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] CTPP News
Folks, it'd be a shame to lose so many people from this list over the
"recent unpleasantness". It would seem those involved in the nasty little
exchange realize their error in posting that mess on the listserver. This
has been a very valuable resource and forum otherwise. Don't over-react.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Miller [mailto:RMiller(a)victoriatx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:55 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] CTPP News
Please remove my name and email address from the CTPP News Data base.
Ray Miller
Victoria MPO
I'm with John and Carlos on this. Personally, I've gotten a lot of good information from the emails. If the conversations go "private," we lose a purpose of the listserve, and lose a sense of community. I think the fact that there are disagreements and issues is important information in itself...maybe another strategy would be to take a deep breath, count to ten, and keep on talking. I'm still listening...
Liz Hartmann
Folks, it'd be a shame to lose so many people from this list over the
"recent unpleasantness". It would seem those involved in the nasty little
exchange realize their error in posting that mess on the listserver. This
has been a very valuable resource and forum otherwise. Don't over-react.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Miller [mailto:RMiller(a)victoriatx.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:55 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] CTPP News
Please remove my name and email address from the CTPP News Data base.
Ray Miller
Victoria MPO
Before this gets even more annoying....
Do you want your e-mail address off of the list?
This is how you do it.
Send an e-mail to:
majordomo(a)chrispy.net
In the message body of the e-mail type:
unsubscribe ctpp-news <your e-mail address goes here>
Let me repeat:
Send an e-mail to: majordomo(a)chrispy.net
In the message body of the e-mail type:
unsubscribe ctpp-news <your e-mail address goes here>
>>> chrisp(a)chrispy.net 01/28/02 05:24PM >>>
If you wish to unsubscribe from ctpp-news, please send an email message
to majordomo(a)chrispy.net with the following body:
unsubscribe ctpp-news <your email address>
Thanks,
Chris
For those that want to be deleted from the list serve, please use the
unsubscribe procedure which does the job without barraging the rest of
us with more useless messages. It's perfectly OK to unsubscribe in
private.
For those that have not deleted themselves, I suggest that ctpp-news is
a largely useful list serve. I gain valuable insights some of the time
and can easily not read what is not relevant or useful to me. I bet
most subscribers agree with me. The exchange of last week and a few
others from time to time are minor lapses in judgment. We have all
received an apology. Let's get on with our lives.
Please do not delete me.
Carlos H. Arce
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