24 Aug
2010
24 Aug
'10
11:05 a.m.
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June 11, 2010 that
is available at: http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area
Criteria for the 2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24, 2010,
available on the Federal Register's website at
<http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is seeking public
comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing, no
later than November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography
Division, U.S. Census Bureau, Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a
delineation of geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized areas
of 50,000 or more people and urban clusters of at least 2,500 and less than
50,000 people; "rural" encompasses all population and territory not
included in urban areas. The Census Bureau's urban areas represent densely
developed territory, and encompass residential, commercial, and other
non-residential urban land uses. Additional information about the Census
Bureau's urban-rural classification is available on the Census Bureau's
website at <http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as summaries
of the proposed changes, are available on the Census Bureau's website at <
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
· Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
· Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
· Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
· Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
· Elimination of the central place concept.
· Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population, an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
· Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural classification,
or the proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please contact Vincent Osier,
Chief, Geographic Standards and Criteria Branch, Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at
301-763-9039.
24 Aug
24 Aug
11:27 a.m.
New subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010 Census
I am intrigued about "Use of census tracts as analysis units in the
initial phase of delineation". What does this mean? Will it mean that
the core of an urban area has to be a tract with at least 1000 pop/sq
mile? Instead of a block? If so, I can see some urban areas disapearing.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System
40 Harlow Street
Bangor
Maine 04401
Tel (207) 942-6389
Fax (207) 942-3548
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
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Subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for
the2010 Census
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June
11, 2010 that is available at:
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area
Criteria for the 2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24,
2010, available on the Federal Register's website at
<http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is seeking public
comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing,
no later than November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography
Division, U.S. Census Bureau, Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a
delineation of geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized
areas of 50,000 or more people and urban clusters of at least 2,500 and
less than 50,000 people; "rural" encompasses all population and
territory not included in urban areas. The Census Bureau's urban areas
represent densely developed territory, and encompass residential,
commercial, and other non-residential urban land uses. Additional
information about the Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is
available on the Census Bureau's website at
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as
summaries of the proposed changes, are available on the Census Bureau's
website at < http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
* Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
* Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
* Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
* Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
* Elimination of the central place concept.
* Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population,
an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
* Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population
based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural
classification, or the proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please
contact Vincent Osier, Chief, Geographic Standards and Criteria Branch,
Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at
301-763-9039.
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New subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010 Census
The 2000 criteria started with block groups with the effect that some block groups were
left out that would have been included if the entire tract were used. This was due
largely to a common practice of defining dense neighborhoods as block groups first, then
having a "leftover" block group that was everything else. The summary of
differences shows that preliminary analysis indicates that more cores would have been
identified using the initial tract method in 2000.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director
400 Oak Street, Suite 102, Abilene, TX 79602
Office (325) 676-6243
Fax (325) 676-6398
Cell (325) 513-4615
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf
Of Don Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:27 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010
Census
I am intrigued about "Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation". What does this mean? Will it mean that the core of an urban area has to
be a tract with at least 1000 pop/sq mile? Instead of a block? If so, I can see some urban
areas disapearing.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System 40 Harlow Street Bangor Maine 04401 Tel
(207) 942-6389 Fax (207) 942-3548 "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the
future" - Neils Bohr
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:05 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: joseph.hausman(a)dot.gov; David.Winter(a)dot.gov; Paul.Svercl(a)dot.gov
Subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010 Census
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June 11, 2010 that
is available at:
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the
2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24, 2010, available on the Federal
Register's website at <http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is
seeking public comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing, no later than
November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography Division, U.S. Census Bureau,
Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a delineation of
geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized areas of 50,000 or more people and
urban clusters of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000 people; "rural"
encompasses all population and territory not included in urban areas. The Census
Bureau's urban areas represent densely developed territory, and encompass
residential, commercial, and other non-residential urban land uses. Additional
information about the Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is available on the
Census Bureau's website at
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as summaries of the proposed
changes, are available on the Census Bureau's website at <
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
* Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
* Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
* Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
* Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
* Elimination of the central place concept.
* Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population, an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
* Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural classification, or the
proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please contact Vincent Osier, Chief, Geographic
Standards and Criteria Branch, Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at 301-763-9039.
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12:59 p.m.
New subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010 Census
As an amateur, it appears this means that the Census Bureau is tightening up the
delineation criteria for UZAs.
What are the practical effects of this? How is each current UZA affected, say by applying
the new criteria to the 2000 census data?
Surely the Census Bureau knows the effects of this, as they would not propose it in
ignorance.
________________________________________
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Allen, Robert [Robert.Allen(a)abilenetx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:05 PM
To: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010
Census
The 2000 criteria started with block groups with the effect that some block groups were
left out that would have been included if the entire tract were used. This was due
largely to a common practice of defining dense neighborhoods as block groups first, then
having a "leftover" block group that was everything else. The summary of
differences shows that preliminary analysis indicates that more cores would have been
identified using the initial tract method in 2000.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director
400 Oak Street, Suite 102, Abilene, TX 79602
Office (325) 676-6243
Fax (325) 676-6398
Cell (325) 513-4615
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf
Of Don Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:27 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010
Census
I am intrigued about "Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation". What does this mean? Will it mean that the core of an urban area has to
be a tract with at least 1000 pop/sq mile? Instead of a block? If so, I can see some urban
areas disapearing.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System 40 Harlow Street Bangor Maine 04401 Tel
(207) 942-6389 Fax (207) 942-3548 "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the
future" - Neils Bohr
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:05 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: joseph.hausman(a)dot.gov; David.Winter(a)dot.gov; Paul.Svercl(a)dot.gov
Subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010 Census
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June 11, 2010 that
is available at:
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the
2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24, 2010, available on the Federal
Register's website at <http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is
seeking public comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing, no later than
November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography Division, U.S. Census Bureau,
Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a delineation of
geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized areas of 50,000 or more people and
urban clusters of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000 people; "rural"
encompasses all population and territory not included in urban areas. The Census
Bureau's urban areas represent densely developed territory, and encompass
residential, commercial, and other non-residential urban land uses. Additional
information about the Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is available on the
Census Bureau's website at
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as summaries of the proposed
changes, are available on the Census Bureau's website at <
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
* Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
* Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
* Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
* Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
* Elimination of the central place concept.
* Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population, an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
* Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural classification, or the
proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please contact Vincent Osier, Chief, Geographic
Standards and Criteria Branch, Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at 301-763-9039.
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New subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria forthe2010 Census
Very interested in the difference. Can you point me toward the analysi
you describe?
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System
40 Harlow Street
Bangor
Maine 04401
Tel (207) 942-6389
Fax (207) 942-3548
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Allen, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:06 PM
To: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria
forthe2010 Census
The 2000 criteria started with block groups with the effect that some
block groups were left out that would have been included if the entire
tract were used. This was due largely to a common practice of defining
dense neighborhoods as block groups first, then having a "leftover"
block group that was everything else. The summary of differences shows
that preliminary analysis indicates that more cores would have been
identified using the initial tract method in 2000.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director 400 Oak Street, Suite 102,
Abilene, TX 79602
Office (325) 676-6243
Fax (325) 676-6398
Cell (325) 513-4615
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Don Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:27 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria
for the2010 Census
I am intrigued about "Use of census tracts as analysis units in the
initial phase of delineation". What does this mean? Will it mean that
the core of an urban area has to be a tract with at least 1000 pop/sq
mile? Instead of a block? If so, I can see some urban areas disapearing.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System 40 Harlow Street Bangor
Maine 04401 Tel (207) 942-6389 Fax (207) 942-3548 "Prediction is very
difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
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Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:05 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: joseph.hausman(a)dot.gov; David.Winter(a)dot.gov; Paul.Svercl(a)dot.gov
Subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for
the2010 Census
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June
11, 2010 that is available at:
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area
Criteria for the 2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24,
2010, available on the Federal Register's website at
<http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is seeking public
comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing,
no later than November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography
Division, U.S. Census Bureau, Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a
delineation of geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized
areas of 50,000 or more people and urban clusters of at least 2,500 and
less than 50,000 people; "rural" encompasses all population and
territory not included in urban areas. The Census Bureau's urban areas
represent densely developed territory, and encompass residential,
commercial, and other non-residential urban land uses. Additional
information about the Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is
available on the Census Bureau's website at
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as
summaries of the proposed changes, are available on the Census Bureau's
website at < http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
* Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
* Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
* Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
* Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
* Elimination of the central place concept.
* Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population,
an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
* Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population
based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural
classification, or the proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please
contact Vincent Osier, Chief, Geographic Standards and Criteria Branch,
Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at
301-763-9039.
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New subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria forthe2010 Census
On the census page about the criteria
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>
There is a bullet point called:
Differences Between the 2010 Census Proposed Urban Area Criteria and the Census 2000 Urban
Area Criteria [MSWord] or [TXT]
This document discusses the analysis. I cannot find that it says whether or how many core
areas might have dropped out had the proposed criteria been used in 2000 but it does show
there would have been a net increase from 904 to 924 in initial urban cores.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director
400 Oak Street, Suite 102, Abilene, TX 79602
Office (325) 676-6243
Fax (325) 676-6398
Cell (325) 513-4615
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf
Of Don Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:04 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria forthe2010 Census
Very interested in the difference. Can you point me toward the analysi you describe?
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System 40 Harlow Street Bangor Maine 04401 Tel
(207) 942-6389 Fax (207) 942-3548 "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the
future" - Neils Bohr
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Allen, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:06 PM
To: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria forthe2010 Census
The 2000 criteria started with block groups with the effect that some block groups were
left out that would have been included if the entire tract were used. This was due
largely to a common practice of defining dense neighborhoods as block groups first, then
having a "leftover"
block group that was everything else. The summary of differences shows that preliminary
analysis indicates that more cores would have been identified using the initial tract
method in 2000.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director 400 Oak Street, Suite 102, Abilene, TX
79602
Office (325) 676-6243
Fax (325) 676-6398
Cell (325) 513-4615
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Don Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:27 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010
Census
I am intrigued about "Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation". What does this mean? Will it mean that the core of an urban area has to
be a tract with at least 1000 pop/sq mile? Instead of a block? If so, I can see some urban
areas disapearing.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System 40 Harlow Street Bangor Maine 04401 Tel
(207) 942-6389 Fax (207) 942-3548 "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the
future" - Neils Bohr
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:05 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: joseph.hausman(a)dot.gov; David.Winter(a)dot.gov; Paul.Svercl(a)dot.gov
Subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the2010 Census
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June 11, 2010 that
is available at:
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area Criteria for the
2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24, 2010, available on the Federal
Register's website at <http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is
seeking public comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing, no later than
November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography Division, U.S. Census Bureau,
Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a delineation of
geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized areas of 50,000 or more people and
urban clusters of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000 people; "rural"
encompasses all population and territory not included in urban areas. The Census
Bureau's urban areas represent densely developed territory, and encompass
residential, commercial, and other non-residential urban land uses. Additional
information about the Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is available on the
Census Bureau's website at
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as summaries of the proposed
changes, are available on the Census Bureau's website at <
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
* Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
* Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
* Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
* Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
* Elimination of the central place concept.
* Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population, an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
* Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural classification, or the
proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please contact Vincent Osier, Chief, Geographic
Standards and Criteria Branch, Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at 301-763-9039.
2:13 p.m.
New subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteriaforthe2010 Census
Thank you Robert: Apparently if the urban core "fails" at the tract
level, the analysis drops to the block level. So it would appear, all
else being equal, that no urban core in 2000 would become non-urban
under the new rules.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System
40 Harlow Street
Bangor
Maine 04401
Tel (207) 942-6389
Fax (207) 942-3548
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:35 PM
To: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area
Criteriaforthe2010 Census
On the census page about the criteria
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>
There is a bullet point called:
Differences Between the 2010 Census Proposed Urban Area Criteria and the
Census 2000 Urban Area Criteria [MSWord] or [TXT]
This document discusses the analysis. I cannot find that it says
whether or how many core areas might have dropped out had the proposed
criteria been used in 2000 but it does show there would have been a net
increase from 904 to 924 in initial urban cores.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director 400 Oak Street, Suite 102,
Abilene, TX 79602
Office (325) 676-6243
Fax (325) 676-6398
Cell (325) 513-4615
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To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
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forthe2010 Census
Very interested in the difference. Can you point me toward the analysi
you describe?
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System 40 Harlow Street Bangor
Maine 04401 Tel (207) 942-6389 Fax (207) 942-3548 "Prediction is very
difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
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To: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria
forthe2010 Census
The 2000 criteria started with block groups with the effect that some
block groups were left out that would have been included if the entire
tract were used. This was due largely to a common practice of defining
dense neighborhoods as block groups first, then having a "leftover"
block group that was everything else. The summary of differences shows
that preliminary analysis indicates that more cores would have been
identified using the initial tract method in 2000.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director 400 Oak Street, Suite 102,
Abilene, TX 79602
Office (325) 676-6243
Fax (325) 676-6398
Cell (325) 513-4615
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Don Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:27 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria
for the2010 Census
I am intrigued about "Use of census tracts as analysis units in the
initial phase of delineation". What does this mean? Will it mean that
the core of an urban area has to be a tract with at least 1000 pop/sq
mile? Instead of a block? If so, I can see some urban areas disapearing.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System 40 Harlow Street Bangor
Maine 04401 Tel (207) 942-6389 Fax (207) 942-3548 "Prediction is very
difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
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To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: joseph.hausman(a)dot.gov; David.Winter(a)dot.gov; Paul.Svercl(a)dot.gov
Subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for
the2010 Census
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June
11, 2010 that is available at:
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area
Criteria for the 2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24,
2010, available on the Federal Register's website at
<http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is seeking public
comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing,
no later than November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography
Division, U.S. Census Bureau, Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a
delineation of geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized
areas of 50,000 or more people and urban clusters of at least 2,500 and
less than 50,000 people; "rural" encompasses all population and
territory not included in urban areas. The Census Bureau's urban areas
represent densely developed territory, and encompass residential,
commercial, and other non-residential urban land uses. Additional
information about the Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is
available on the Census Bureau's website at
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as
summaries of the proposed changes, are available on the Census Bureau's
website at < http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
* Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
* Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
* Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
* Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
* Elimination of the central place concept.
* Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population,
an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
* Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population
based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural
classification, or the proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please
contact Vincent Osier, Chief, Geographic Standards and Criteria Branch,
Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at
301-763-9039.
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1:32 p.m.
New subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria forthe2010 Census
For 2000, the Census Bureau started with residential density at the BLOCK GROUP level, and
they are proposing using tracts as the starting point to establish the core instead. In
the archived webinar, there is a slide that shows that the amount of the population
covered using tracts as the starting geographic unit is nearly the same as when using
block groups as the starting geographic unit.
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net on behalf of Don Cooper
Sent: Tue 8/24/2010 11:27 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria forthe2010 Census
I am intrigued about "Use of census tracts as analysis units in the
initial phase of delineation". What does this mean? Will it mean that
the core of an urban area has to be a tract with at least 1000 pop/sq
mile? Instead of a block? If so, I can see some urban areas disapearing.
Donald Cooper
Senior Transportation Planner
Bangor Area Comprehensive Transportation System
40 Harlow Street
Bangor
Maine 04401
Tel (207) 942-6389
Fax (207) 942-3548
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" - Neils Bohr
-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of
Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:05 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: joseph.hausman(a)dot.gov; David.Winter(a)dot.gov; Paul.Svercl(a)dot.gov
Subject: [CTPP] Fed Register notice on Proposed Urban Area Criteria for
the2010 Census
The Federal Register notice from the Census Bureau is now posted.
The due date for comments is November 22.
You may want to listen to Mike Ratcliffe's web presentation from June
11, 2010 that is available at:
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/webinardirectory.aspx
----
The Census Bureau announces publication of the "Proposed Urban Area
Criteria for the 2010 Census" in the Federal Register of August 24,
2010, available on the Federal Register's website at
<http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/>. The Census Bureau is seeking public
comment on these proposed criteria. Comments, suggestions, or
recommendations regarding the criteria should be submitted in writing,
no later than November 22, 2010, to Timothy Trainor, Chief, Geography
Division, U.S. Census Bureau, Washington, DC 20233-7400.
The Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is fundamentally a
delineation of geographical areas, identifying individual urbanized
areas of 50,000 or more people and urban clusters of at least 2,500 and
less than 50,000 people; "rural" encompasses all population and
territory not included in urban areas. The Census Bureau's urban areas
represent densely developed territory, and encompass residential,
commercial, and other non-residential urban land uses. Additional
information about the Census Bureau's urban-rural classification is
available on the Census Bureau's website at
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html>.
The proposed urban area criteria for the 2010 Census as well as
summaries of the proposed changes, are available on the Census Bureau's
website at < http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/2010urbanruralclass.html>gt;.
Changes proposed for the 2010 Census include:
* Use of census tracts as analysis units in the initial phase of
delineation
* Potential return to a maximum jump distance of 1.5 miles (the
distance was increased to 2.5 miles in the Census 2000 criteria).
* Use of land use/land cover data to identify territory containing
non-residential urban land uses or land cover that restricts urban
development, such as marshland and wetlands.
* Lowering the minimum number of enplanements (departing passengers)
from 10,000 to 2,500 to qualify airports for inclusion in urban
areas.
* Elimination of the central place concept.
* Requirement that, in addition to at least 2,500 total population,
an
area must contain at least 1,500 persons residing outside
institutional group quarters to qualify as urban.
* Splitting urban agglomerations of 1,000,000 or more population
based
on metropolitan statistical area boundaries, or, in New England,
along metropolitan New England city and town area boundaries.
For further information about the Census Bureau urban-rural
classification, or the proposed criteria for the 2010 Census, please
contact Vincent Osier, Chief, Geographic Standards and Criteria Branch,
Geography Division, U.S.
Census Bureau, via e-mail at vincent.osier(a)census.gov or telephone at
301-763-9039.
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