You are presumably using the Norfolk-etc., MSA as an example. Note that there is a line break (space) between the line "Not in central city" and the list of counties that are components of the MSA. The indent on the "Not in central city" is at the same depth as those for the counties listed after the line break. It is not that the counties listed are in the portion of the metropolitan area outside the central cities. These are the counties that are the components of the entire metro area. In Virginia, independent cities are county equivalents, so the 5 central cities appear as not only central cities but, because they are independent cities, they must also appear as counties which are components of the MSA. If you look at a table that has numbers rather than percentages, or even a simpler metro area (like Ocala, FL) it may be more apparent as to what lines add up to what. -- Celia G. Boertlein Journey-to-Work and Migration Statistics Branch Population Division U.S. Bureau of the Census Washington, DC 20233-8800 phone: (301)763-2454 fax: (301)457-2481 email: Celia.G.Boertlein(a)Census.GOV "Rob CASE" <RCASE(a)hrpdc.org> To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Sent by: cc: owner-ctpp-news(a)c Subject: [CTPP] In central city vs not in central city hrispy.net 03/14/2003 11:27 AM In one of the GCT-P12 tables on the census website, 5 of the localities in our metro area are listed both under "in central city" and "not in central city". I also saw the same problem for other metro areas. I think the census bureau may have made a mistake in this. I thought at first that the bureau put PART of these 5 localities (say the urbanized portion) under "in central city" and PART of them in "not in central city", but the data listed next to both rows for each of the 5 is the same, so this explanation is not valid. (Note: The table to which I'm referring is a companion table to the table which was the subject of yesterday's post from Celia Boertlein. To get to it: Go to http://www.census.gov Click on "American FactFinder" in dark blue area on left. Click on the words "Data Sets" mid-way down page in blue area. Click on "Geographic Comparison Tables" on right. Leave geographic type as "Nation". Click on "United States and Puerto Rico -- Metropolitan Area, in Central City, Not in Central City, County, and (in selected states) County Subdivision" on table format below. Click on "Next". Click on "GCT-P12 -- Employment Status and Commuting to Work" table. Click on "Show table". It's a large table, so it takes a while to load.) Do you agree that it's wrong for a locality to appear under both "in central city" and "not in central city"? Who should I contact at the bureau to get this fixed? Rob Robert B. Case, PE, PTOE Principal Transportation Engineer Hampton Roads Planning District Commission 723 Woodlake Dr., Chesapeake, Va. 23320 voice:757-420-8300; fax:757-523-4881 rcase(a)hrpdc.org