Hi Mark -
1. The Census Bureau Geography Division will need a block
equivalency file. Perhaps the CB geo staff can answer the question of
whether the TAZ Instruction will include a FILE LAYOUT for the output
files. If so, then it seems to me that you SHOULD be able to do the TAZ
delineation OUTSIDE of the MTPS TAZ module software, but it would NOT be
the PREFERRED method. The software has checking features, e.g.
completeness, contiguity, etc, such that if you make your own file using
the new TIGER files, it will not have the same quality control features.
2. What other purposes of "Census TAZs and TADs". The current
CTPP is funded to include the 3-year (2006-2008) tabulation and the
5-year (2006-2010) tabulation, but depending on how things go, future
3-year and/or 5-year CTPP tabulations are possible if someone wants to
pay for them. We think that the Census Bureau should have made a
consistent geographic tabulation unit for the 20,000 population
threshold (for the 3-year ACS), so that there could be complete
coverage, instead of the "swiss cheese" coverage using counties and
places, but they didn't and haven't. So, this is OUR opportunity to do
something about it, and maybe we can convince the CB that these units
could be an ACS 3-year tabulation geography in the future. The PUMAs
(100,000 population threshold) provide a consistent geographic
tabulation unit for the 1-year ACS, but how they have been defined has
not always been useful to transportation planners. As you know, PUMAs
were not designed to be tabulation units, but have become tabulation
geographic units in the ACS.
3. No one is required to define Census TAZs. If you think that
defining Census TAZs is too much work for the value you will get from
CTPP, you can just say to use census tracts, or block groups for CTPP.
However, we still would recommend that you define TADs, by combining
tracts, for the reason listed above.
Elaine
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Flinner, Mark (DOT)
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:46 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: jonathan ehrlich; Tom Faella; mark.filipi(a)metc.state.mn.us
Subject: [CTPP] RE: TAZ software training vs. not using the TAZ software
Is there anything to prevent an MPO from creating their own shape files
for Census TAZ or Census TAD boundary/ Block Equivalencies assuming they
have already obtained 2010 TIGER boundary sets?
Also, we am planning a Census TAZ delineation workshop on February 7th
to discuss issues associated with nesting model TAZs within Census TAZs
given the relatively low populations of most of our MPO model TAZs. I
had hoped to acquaint people with the software environment prior to the
training sessions at the end of the month but understand that we are not
a testing state. I also expect a discussion of the complexities of
obtaining CTPP special tabulation data then needing to reallocate the
data to model TAZ geographies. Is there anything you can share with us
to assist in these areas? I have also received a question of what other
uses (besides the one-time use of obtaining CTPP data) the census TAZ
and TAD geographies have beyond the census year. LEHD On the Map comes
to mind... other uses?
Thank you.
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of
Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:25 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] TAZ software training: WEB ONLY scheduled for Friday,
Feb 25 and Monday, Feb 28
As you know, TAZ delineation by State DOTs and MPOs will occur very
soon, with software distribution in March/early April and files returned
to the CB by mid-July. The software is being tested by volunteer State
DOTs and MPOs starting from Friday, Jan 14 thru Feb 2. Thank you to all
the volunteers! We do not need any additional software testers.
We have two web training events scheduled. REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
Please make sure that you capture the full http:// address, in case the
listserv breaks it up. You need the address including webconfid=22433,
or webconfid=21975
I have reserved 300 spaces for each day, so there should be enough room
for everyone. If you are unavailable on those days, the sessions will
be recorded and available for later viewing. The same training will
occur on each day, so please sign up for only one.
The web meeting software has been upgraded, therefore, the email with
the confirmation of your registration will have a link to check the
functionality on your computer.
Friday, 2/25/2011, from 10 a.m. - noon EASTERN:
Registration URL:
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_re
g.aspx?webconfid=22433
<https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_r
eg.aspx?webconfid=22433>
Monday, 2/28/2011, from 2 - 4 p.m. EASTERN:
Registration URL:
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_re
g.aspx?webconfid=21975
<https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_r
eg.aspx?webconfid=21975>
Question: why is the time to do this only 3 months?
Answer: For the TAZ and TAD delineation, it is important to be able to
use the TIGER files with the 2010 geography and 2010 population counts.
The 2010 population counts will be released to the public on a flow
basis starting in March 2011, so we have to wait until these data are
available to begin TAZ and TAD delineation. If the 5-year CTPP using
2006-2010 ACS records will be tabulated for TAZs and TADs, the TAZ and
TAD delineations need to be completed quickly and returned to the CB
Geography Division (GEO) 3 months after the agencies receive their files
(no later than July 2011).
This provides GEO with sufficient time to QC the submissions, produce
the necessary files so that ACS records will get TAZ/TAD identifiers,
and create TIGER/Line shapefiles for TAZ/TAD geography. If the TAZs
and TADs
are not delineated within this time frame, the CTPP tabulation could be
delayed for another year, that is, Fall 2013.
Question: are there strict thresholds on either residential population
or workplace population?
Answer: No. The software will give a warning message, but will still
allow you to define TAZs below the recommended "threshold." (The FAQ
will include more discussion about this topic.)
We are working on an FAQ document on TAZs and will post it on the AASHTO
CTPP page.
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/taz.aspx
<http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/taz.aspx>
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
206-220-4460
Mark:
I am on the AASHTO CTPP committee, and I can answer part of your
question: You can create your own shape files, you can import them into
the TAZ delineation software for viewing, BUT you cannot submit them
directly to Census as your desired TAZ delineation. Census needs the
delineations from all the MPOs and DOTs from across the land in a single
uniform file format, which is the format of the output of the TAZ
software.
The software will allow you to import your shape files so that you can
construct the TAZs with the shapes from your other software as a
background layer.
Pete Swensson, Senior Planner
Thurston Regional Planning Council
2424 Heritage Ct. SW
Olympia, WA 98502
(360) 741-2530 (direct line)
(360) 956-7575 (main desk)
(360) 956-7815 (fax)
swenssp(a)trpc.org
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From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Flinner, Mark (DOT)
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:46 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: jonathan ehrlich; Tom Faella; mark.filipi(a)metc.state.mn.us
Subject: [CTPP] RE: TAZ software training vs. not using the TAZ software
Is there anything to prevent an MPO from creating their own shape files
for Census TAZ or Census TAD boundary/ Block Equivalencies assuming they
have already obtained 2010 TIGER boundary sets?
Also, we am planning a Census TAZ delineation workshop on February 7th
to discuss issues associated with nesting model TAZs within Census TAZs
given the relatively low populations of most of our MPO model TAZs. I
had hoped to acquaint people with the software environment prior to the
training sessions at the end of the month but understand that we are not
a testing state. I also expect a discussion of the complexities of
obtaining CTPP special tabulation data then needing to reallocate the
data to model TAZ geographies. Is there anything you can share with us
to assist in these areas? I have also received a question of what other
uses (besides the one-time use of obtaining CTPP data) the census TAZ
and TAD geographies have beyond the census year. LEHD On the Map comes
to mind... other uses?
Thank you.
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of
Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:25 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] TAZ software training: WEB ONLY scheduled for Friday,
Feb 25 and Monday, Feb 28
As you know, TAZ delineation by State DOTs and MPOs will occur very
soon, with software distribution in March/early April and files returned
to the CB by mid-July. The software is being tested by volunteer State
DOTs and MPOs starting from Friday, Jan 14 thru Feb 2. Thank you to all
the volunteers! We do not need any additional software testers.
We have two web training events scheduled. REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
Please make sure that you capture the full http:// address, in case the
listserv breaks it up. You need the address including webconfid=22433,
or webconfid=21975
I have reserved 300 spaces for each day, so there should be enough room
for everyone. If you are unavailable on those days, the sessions will
be recorded and available for later viewing. The same training will
occur on each day, so please sign up for only one.
The web meeting software has been upgraded, therefore, the email with
the confirmation of your registration will have a link to check the
functionality on your computer.
Friday, 2/25/2011, from 10 a.m. - noon EASTERN:
Registration URL:
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_re
g.aspx?webconfid=22433
<https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_r
eg.aspx?webconfid=22433>
Monday, 2/28/2011, from 2 - 4 p.m. EASTERN:
Registration URL:
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_re
g.aspx?webconfid=21975
<https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_r
eg.aspx?webconfid=21975>
Question: why is the time to do this only 3 months?
Answer: For the TAZ and TAD delineation, it is important to be able to
use the TIGER files with the 2010 geography and 2010 population counts.
The 2010 population counts will be released to the public on a flow
basis starting in March 2011, so we have to wait until these data are
available to begin TAZ and TAD delineation. If the 5-year CTPP using
2006-2010 ACS records will be tabulated for TAZs and TADs, the TAZ and
TAD delineations need to be completed quickly and returned to the CB
Geography Division (GEO) 3 months after the agencies receive their files
(no later than July 2011).
This provides GEO with sufficient time to QC the submissions, produce
the necessary files so that ACS records will get TAZ/TAD identifiers,
and create TIGER/Line shapefiles for TAZ/TAD geography. If the TAZs
and TADs
are not delineated within this time frame, the CTPP tabulation could be
delayed for another year, that is, Fall 2013.
Question: are there strict thresholds on either residential population
or workplace population?
Answer: No. The software will give a warning message, but will still
allow you to define TAZs below the recommended "threshold." (The FAQ
will include more discussion about this topic.)
We are working on an FAQ document on TAZs and will post it on the AASHTO
CTPP page.
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/taz.aspx
<http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/taz.aspx>
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
206-220-4460
The January 2011 issue of the "Status Report" is now hitting the
streets. It is available at http://www.trbcensus.com/newsltr/sr0111.pdf
and very soon will be at http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ctpp/status.htm
In this issue learn about the TAZ Delineation process, get an update
from AASHTO on the CTPP program, read articles on Commutation Flows and
Improving Employment Data for Transportation Planning and review the
Data Products Schedule.
For those with questions about the upcoming TAZ Delineation process make
sure to register and attend one of two webinars.
--Friday, February 25, 2011, from 10 a.m. to noon EASTERN
Registration Link
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.a…
--Monday, February 28, 2011, from from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. EASTERN
Registration Link
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.a…
--
Ed Christopher
708-283-3534 (V)
708-574-8131 (cell)
FHWA RC-TST-PLN
4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600
Matteson, IL 60443
This is a follow up to Elaine's email.
Will you be responsible for creating the TAZs and/or the "new" Traffic
Analysis Districts for the 5-year CTPP data in your state or MPO? Will
you need to know the process or be managing a TAZ/TAD delineation
effort? If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then you will
certainly want to register and attend one of two repeat webinars that
will be held at the end of February.
--Friday, February 25, 2011, from 10 a.m. to noon EASTERN
Registration Link
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.a…
--Monday, February 28, 2011, from from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. EASTERN
Registration Link
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.a…
The Webinars will feature a discussion of the Census Data TAZs/TADs, the
delineation rules and time line. There will also be a demonstration by
Census Bureau staff of the delineation software that MPOs and States
will be using coupled with ample time for Q and A. The webinars will
both be recorded and posted on the AASHTO CTPP website at
http://ctpp.transportation.org
If you are having troubling registering you can email either Elaine
Murakami (Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov) or me and we will try to help.
Remember that registration is mandatory and make sure to include the
entire link when going to the registration website.
--
Ed Christopher
708-283-3534 (V)
708-574-8131 (cell)
FHWA RC-TST-PLN
4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600
Matteson, IL 60443
The Census Bureau Geography Division will have a booth in the Exhibit Hall
at the upcoming Transportation Research Board annual meeting, at which
demonstrations of the Traffic Analysis Zone delineation software, known as
the TAZ MAF/TIGER Partnership Software (or TAZ MTPS), will be conducted for
interested attendees. Staff will be available to answer questions about
the software and the TAZ program itself, in addition to demonstrating the
software’s functionalities.
The Exhibit Hall is located within the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, and
will be open Sunday, January 23, 4:00 p.m.-7:00 p.m. (Opening Reception),
Monday, January 24, 9:30 a.m.-4:00 p.m. and Tuesday, January 25, 9:30
a.m.-4:00 p.m. The Census Bureau booth is #1117.
Hope to see you there!
The TAZ team
geo.taz.list(a)census.gov
Now that we have all had time to digest the 2010 population count and the
2005-2009 5 year ACS estimates the 3-year 2007-2009 ACS have arrived.
Today the U.S Census Bureau announced the release of the 2007-2009
American Community Survey (ACS) 3-year estimates on American FactFinder.
This release covers the same topics included in the previously released
2009 ACS 1-year estimates. The 2007-2009 ACS estimates have a 3-year time
frame and are only available for areas with populations of 20,000 or more.
You can access the newly-released data on American FactFinder at:
2007-2009 ACS 3-year data
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DatasetMainPageServlet?_program=ACS&_s…
If you would like more information and supporting documentation for this
data release please visit the ACS web site at:
www.census.gov/acs [ http://www.census.gov/acs ]
--
Ed Christopher
FHWA Resource Center Planning Team
4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600
Matteson, IL 60443
708-283-3534 (V)
708-574-8131 (C)
Maybe these archived webinars will help!
Dec 8, 2010 Census Bureau ACS webinar, with ppt and wmv files. Explains
difference between the 2010 Decennial Census and the multi-year ACS, ACS
products. See the right side of the page at:
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/american_community_surv
ey_acs/cb10-cn86.html
Dec 14, 2010 Census Bureau ACS webinar, with pdf and wmv files,
including the thematic maps in AFF that drill down to detailed (tract)
geography. See:
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/american_community_surv
ey_acs/cb10-cn90.html
Thanks to Trent Alexander, Chief, Data Analysis and User Education
Branch,
American Community Survey Office.
CTTP List Serv:
I was wondering if there are any MPO's out there that have more than one urbanized area in your area and if so how is this handled? I am also seeking opinions of other MPO professionals about the pro's and con's of having two in one MPO area, especially if they are not contiguous to each other based on the urban area criteria.
Thanks,
Robert
Robert E. Smith Jr.
Senior Transportation Planner, MPO Administrator
Planning and Development Department
Transportation Planning Division Head
City of Montgomery/MPO
Intermodal Transportation Facility
495 Molton Street
Montgomery, AL 36104
Phone: (334) 241-2249
Fax: (334) 241-2326
Email: rsmith(a)montgomeryal.gov<mailto:rsmith(a)montgomeryal.gov>
City of Montgomery website: http://montgomeryal.gov/index.aspx?page=205
MPO website: http://www.montgomerympo.org