Thank you all for the discussions about MOE re-calculations when using
ACS data.
We have added links to 2 different calculators to the FHWA web page on
census data. One is from the State Data Center network, and the other
is from Univ of South Florida, Center for Urban Transportation Research.
Please look under the "training" section on this page.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/acs.htm
Hope to see many of you at the TRB annual meeting in a couple of weeks.
Don't forget that there is an ACS data workshop on Sunday, January 23
from 9:00 a.m. - noon. The Census Bureau Geography Division is planning
to show the prototype version of the TAZ module of MTPS during that
session. They will also have a booth in the TRB Exhibit Hall. This
workshop was organized by TRB Committee on Urban Data (ABJ30): Census
subcommittee.
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
206-220-4460
Thanks.
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of David Lee
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Subject: [CTPP] RE: MPO's Areas with More Than One Urbanized Area
We have two separate urbanized areas within our MPO boundaries. This is not an easy issue for our region (Fredericksburg Area MPO: FAMPO) when it involves federal funding issues, while modeling the region is quite straightforward.
Washington (DC-MD-VA) TMA urbanized area boundary which was out of our region in 1990 Census was expanded to a part of our region (north Stafford county) due to 2000 Census. This created two separate urbanized areas in FAMPO planning region: one is for the Stafford portion of Washington TMA and the other for Fredericksburg area.
See the maps:
http://www.epa.gov/npdes/pubs/ua_washington.pdfhttp://www.epa.gov/npdes/pubs/ua_fredericksburg.pdf
Due to this change, in 2004, the National Capital Region Transportation Planning Board (TPB) and
the Fredericksburg Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (FAMPO) entered into a cooperative agreement which identifies the roles and responsibilities for cooperatively conducting the metropolitan planning and programming process. The agreement was entered into to resolve the matter of having a portion of the Washington TMA urbanized area boundary extend into the northern portion of Stafford County.
FAMPO is a non-TMA, and the agreement commits FAMPO to be responsible for meeting the TMA responsibilities for planning and programming requirements within the Washington TMA Urbanized Area of Stafford County. The agreement also requires coordination between both organizations with respect to the development of the Congestion Management Process, the Unified Planning Work Program, and during federal certification reviews. Specifically, as it pertain to the coordination of planning activities, the agreement states that, " TPB and FAMPO will maintain coordinated, cooperative, and continuing planning processes. TPB and FAMPO shall coordinate their planning processes and produce required planning documents on the same cycle, as determined by TPB's current planning cycle." We recognized that some disconnect between the coordination and cooperation initiatives that were contained in the agreement and what was actually being practiced. Therefore, we are under the revision of the agreement.
David J-H. LEE, Ph.D.
Principal Planner
Fredericksburg Area Metropolitan Planning Organization / George Washington Regional Commission
(540) 373-2890
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Subject: [CTPP] RE: MPO's Areas with More Than One Urbanized Area
I am aware of several MPOs in Texas that have more than one urbanized area under a single MPO. For example, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston-Galveston, and Austin all have a TMA and one or more smaller urbanized areas in the same MPO area. Midland-Odessa and Beaumont-Port Arthur each have more than one non-TMA and no TMA. The keys are the amount of travel interactivity among the urbanized areas, the reasonableness of having separate plans for transportation systems for the urbanized areas, and in the case of smaller urbanized areas, the feasibility of funding a separate planning organization. However, regardless of the objective rationales for integrating transportation systems planning among urbanized areas in the same metropolitan area, there are often political rivalries that must be carefully negotiated and all public decisions are ultimately made in a political context.
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Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director
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CTTP List Serv:
I was wondering if there are any MPO's out there that have more than one urbanized area in your area and if so how is this handled? I am also seeking opinions of other MPO professionals about the pro's and con's of having two in one MPO area, especially if they are not contiguous to each other based on the urban area criteria.
Thanks,
Robert
Robert E. Smith Jr.
Senior Transportation Planner, MPO Administrator
Planning and Development Department
Transportation Planning Division Head
City of Montgomery/MPO
Intermodal Transportation Facility
495 Molton Street
Montgomery, AL 36104
Phone: (334) 241-2249
Fax: (334) 241-2326
Email: rsmith(a)montgomeryal.gov<mailto:rsmith(a)montgomeryal.gov>
City of Montgomery website: http://montgomeryal.gov/index.aspx?page=205
MPO website: http://www.montgomerympo.org
For those of you interested the Federal Highway Administration released a report in May of 2010 titled, Staffing and Administrative Capacity of Metropolitan Planning Organization. It provides
examples of various MPO organizational structures and operations across the nation. A number of organizations administer more than 1 MPO (We serve 3). It is interesting and available on the TRB Website:
http://144.171.11.107/Main/Public/Blurbs/42264ab6-af43-437c-8718-011f6a23fe… I will try to e-mail a copy to Mr. Smith (7MB).
Thanks
Walt Raith, Assistant Director/MPO Director
East Central Wisconsin Regional Planning Commission
400 Ahnaip St, Suite 100
Menasha WI 54952
Phone: 920-751-4770
Fax: 920-751-4771
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An MPO should serve the most logical definition of a regional travel market. If that market includes more than 1 urbanized area, then the MPO should include those urbanized areas. Here in the Research Triangle region, we have two urbanized areas within 2 MSAs (Raleigh-Cary and Durham-Chapel Hill) with separate MPOs, but our most heavily traveled roadway link (I-40 at the Durham/Wake County line in the Research Triangle Park) is at the dividing line between our urbanized areas and MPOs. We make things work through good cooperation (single travel demand model, joint LRTP, single air quality conformity process, etc.) but it is not how one would design the process to be most effective and cost-efficient.
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Subject: [CTPP] MPO's Areas with More Than One Urbanized Area
CTTP List Serv:
I was wondering if there are any MPO's out there that have more than one urbanized area in your area and if so how is this handled? I am also seeking opinions of other MPO professionals about the pro's and con's of having two in one MPO area, especially if they are not contiguous to each other based on the urban area criteria.
Thanks,
Robert
Robert E. Smith Jr.
Senior Transportation Planner, MPO Administrator
Planning and Development Department
Transportation Planning Division Head
City of Montgomery/MPO
Intermodal Transportation Facility
495 Molton Street
Montgomery, AL 36104
Phone: (334) 241-2249
Fax: (334) 241-2326
Email: rsmith(a)montgomeryal.gov<mailto:rsmith(a)montgomeryal.gov>
City of Montgomery website: http://montgomeryal.gov/index.aspx?page=205
MPO website: http://www.montgomerympo.org
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All--
You might find these videos by Hans Rosling on presenting health data extremely useful/interesting. The first is a 4 minute long YouTube video (I know some of you cannot watch YouTube from your work computers). The second is 18 minutes long, but is available on a blog. If you have an opportunity to view these, you will agree that these are exceptional presentations.
Thanks to Alan Pisarski for sharing this with us.
4 minute version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo
18 minute version
http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/12/data_visualisation
Thanks
Nanda
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Cliff:
The guidebook is a good start, but you can also use the Excel Summary File
Data Retrieval Tool if you know what table and tracts you are looking for.
The tool can provide both the estimate and the margin of error right next to
each other with the selected geography by check marking the option. The
tool is located at:
http://www2.census.gov/acs2009_5yr/summaryfile/UserTools/SummaryFileDataRetr
ievalTool.zip
See if the above tool will meet your need. The data is in Excel, so you can
do all kinds of charts and summations as you need.
Enjoy;
Lori
Software Engineer
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Hi, Cliff
The ACS General Guidebook has one chapter devoted to calculating MOEs for
derived estimates. You may find it helpful. I was trying to locate this
document on line, but didn't see it. Attached is my downloaded version from
a while ago.
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I am looking for guidance on how to combine median income values for several
census tracts into a single value and associated margin of error. I recall
seeing something about this topic in an ACS document but cannot locate the
information at this time. Any help would be appreciated.
Cliff Cook
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