I'm posting this for Michael Ratcliffe, who is not a subscriber to this
listserve.
--Phil
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OMB has indicated that they prefer "metro area" and "micro area" as
abbreviations. They do not like "MeSA" and "MiSA."
Other acceptable abbreviations are:
CBSA for Core Based Statistical Area
CSA for Combined Statistical Area
NECTA for New England City and Town Area
CNECTA for Combined New England City and Town Area
Metro Division for Metropolitan Division
NECTA Division for New England City and Town Area Division
_____________________________
Michael R. Ratcliffe
Chief, Population Distribution Branch
Population Division
U.S. Census Bureau
301-763-2421
michael.r.ratcliffe(a)census.gov
Keith:
>mSA looks good, but wouldn't ìSA be better?
>
>Keith Goodman
I think you used a Greek leading letter, but it did not come through, so
that is one problem with that abbreviation.
Peter
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Elaine and Ed:
>On Friday, the Office of Management and Budget released the list of revised
>definitions of Metropolitan Areas, and new definitions of Micropolitan and
>Combined Statistical Areas.
Are there commonly-accepted abbreviations for Metropolitan Statistical Area
and Micropolitan Statistical Area? The OMB circular did not indicate any.
MSA won't work anymore; they could be MeSA and MiSA, which are a little
cryptic, or MetroSA and MicroSA, which are a little long.
Peter
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Caliper Corporation Fax: 617-527-5113
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Apologies in advance for any duplicate receipts ...
-----Original Message-----
From: COPAFS(a)aol.com [mailto:COPAFS(a)aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:54 AM
Subject: News From COPAFS:Revised Metropolitan/Micropolitan Definitions
Dear Members and Friends of COPAFS:
On Friday, the Office of Management and Budget released the list of revised
definitions of Metropolitan Areas, and new definitions of Micropolitan and
Combined Statistical Areas. The list of areas can be obtained by going to:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/ Go to "Bulletins" (on the left hand side of
the page under "Information for Agencies") and then at the bottom of the
announcement, Bulletin 03-04, there is the link to the PDF Attachment.
A full text of the short press release (2003-18) can be found on the OMB web
site at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/pubpress/index.html
COPAFS will host a one day seminar on November 4, 2003, to assess the impact
of the new areas on the public and private sectors. An announcement and
registration form will be on our web site at www.copafs.org by tomorrow
afternoon.
Regards,
Ed Spar
thanks to chuck purvis who updated the trb census subcommittee calendar
page with the most current dates of the various data releases. this
page also contains links to the webpages for the products that have come
out.
http://www.TRBcensus.com/calendar.html
TO: CTPP-News; Bay Area Census Listserv
The Census Bureau has a series of "Census Brief" reports, each about 12 pages in length, in PDF format, with detailed tables, ranking of cities, and national thematic maps for all U.S. counties and states.
The most recent reports are based on "long form" sample data, including topics such as: poverty, disability, housing values, renters costs, and veterans. (The poverty brief was just issued this week.) More are yet to come.
Congratulations (of sorts) to Sunnyvale, California, for having the highest median housing values among large U.S. cities of 100,000+ population! Sunnyvale is also tied with Irvine, California, in terms of highest median gross rents.
The url is:
http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2000/briefs.html
**************************************************************
Charles L. Purvis, AICP
Principal Transportation Planner/Analyst
Metropolitan Transportation Commission
101 Eighth Street
Oakland, CA 94607-4700
(510) 464-7731 (office)
(510) 464-7848 (fax)
www: http://www.mtc.ca.gov/
Census WWW: http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/
**************************************************************
here's an excepts from my brief article from 'the core of the rust belt'
(Youngstown, Ohio).
In 1970 only 700 workers from the Mahoning Valley worked in Geauga
County, now 4,000 do. Cuyahoga County drew only 668 workers from the
region in 1970 now 3,093 make this daily commute. Portage and Summit
Counties each gained 1,700 'Valley' workers over the last 30 years and
the 'Valley' commuters headed for Columbiana County doubled from 2,141
to 4,028. Pennsylvania has also become a popular place of work. About
1,900 more people go over the State line to work than did in 1970; this
is a change of 38%.
The good news is that more employable people still make the Mahoning
Valley (core of the rust belt) their home base. They pay their property
taxes here and for the most part they still shop locally.
The bad news is that more local income taxes go elsewhere. And there's
a lot more traffic out even in communities that aren't experiencing
growth.
>>> ed christopher <edc(a)berwyned.com> 06/03/03 06:25PM >>>
it would be nice to see or hear more about "who has done what" with
their county flow data. linked below is a piece i worked on focused on
the chicago area. one of the things that we here enjoy looking at, are
the flows that come into a county (imports), the ones that go out
(exports) and the ones that never leave (retains). analyzing how
these
trend overtime certainly gives one a fuller appreciation of the
dynamics
of our work travel and urban form. in 30 years we have seen the
character of an area (at the county level) change and go from a
collection of "bedroom communities" (exporter) to an area that is self
sustaining (importer and retainer) in its balance of trips. it will
be
fun to look at this in more geographic detail "if and when" we ever
get
our flow data.
http://www.berwyned.com/papers/co2cochgo.pdfdanielle.cervantes(a)uniontrib.com wrote:
> This trend has been amply written about in San Diego. I have the
CTPP
> data, and I was trained to explore it (thanks Steve and Paul!), but
I
> haven't had an opportunity yet. Generally, the "regular" Census
> releases have answered our questions. Am I missing something?
This trend has been amply written about in San Diego. I have the CTPP data,
and I was trained to explore it (thanks Steve and Paul!), but I haven't had
an opportunity yet. Generally, the "regular" Census releases have answered
our questions. Am I missing something?
-----Original Message-----
From: Sirota, Stuart [mailto:SirotaS(a)pbworld.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:08 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
Alan - But you've already given us your answer: "stay and commute", right?
So what questions are you asking of the data that have not already been
answered? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
Stu Sirota
Parsons Brinckerhoff
Baltimore, Maryland
-----Original Message-----
From: ALAN E. PISARSKI [mailto:pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:37 PM
To: Sirota, Stuart; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
DOCTRINE RAISES ITS HEAD BEFORE THE ANSWERS ARE IN. THANKYOU. Alan Pisarski
----- Original Message -----
From: Sirota, <mailto:SirotaS(a)pbworld.com> Stuart
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net <mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
The 2000 CTPP simply confirms what any 6 year old buckled into the back seat
of a minivan can plainly see: Americans are being compelled to spend
ever-greater amounts of time in cars, over longer distances. The reasons for
this unsustainable trend, which are the resulting nexus of land use policy,
transportation policy, societal and economic forces, have been well
documented. Now that the data is in, what will we as planners do with it?:
a) Continue to recommend projects and policies that perpetuate the status
quo trendline?
b) Develop tools that provide alternative choices?
You decide.
Stu Sirota
Parsons Brinckerhoff
Baltimore, Maryland
-----Original Message-----
From: William Knight [mailto:wknight(a)ccmpo.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:02 PM
To: 'ALAN E. PISARSKI'; 'Sam Granato'
Cc: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
This all is a familiar phenomenon in the Burlington, VT area. Housing in
the county is sky rocketing in costs and people are moving out to adjacent
and even further away. Commutes are getting longer.
William L Knight, Executive Director
Chittenden County Metropolitan Planning Organization
30 Kimball Avenue
South Burlington, VT 05403
(802) 660-4071, Ext. 228
(802) 660-4079 Fax
wknight(a)ccmpo.orgwww.ccmpo.org
-----Original Message-----
From: ALAN E. PISARSKI [mailto:pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Sam Granato
Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
All good thoughts. We saw this in New Hampshire also - the family home that
is rich in sentiment but cant get much on the market vs a suburban house you
cant afford. Answer: Stay and commute. Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Granato <mailto:Sam.Granato(a)dot.state.oh.us>
To: ALAN E. PISARSKI <mailto:pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com>
Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net <mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
I had already noted for Wheeling model development that commuting to
counties in Pennsylvania doubled from 1990 to 2000! But to address the
general point, seems there's two trends at work - in stagnant regional
economies, workers try to avoid moving when by choice or force they take
that more distant job (in addition to all the "rural community" issues, what
kind of price would you get for your house in a stagnant or declining
economy?). And in booming regions, the cost of buying a new house becomes
the problem. Lack of space and "gov'mint regulation" are the usually-cited
culprits, but maybe we've also gotten to the point where NIMBYism and the
"growth controls" it leads to are having an impact in the imbalance between
housing supply and demand.
Sam Granato
Ohio DOT, Office of Technical Services
1980 W. Broad Street, Columbus, OH 43223
Phone: 614-644-6796, Fax: 614-752-8646
"The solution to congestion is to put private business in charge of building
roads and the government in charge of building cars." Will Rogers
"ALAN E. PISARSKI" <pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com>
Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
06/03/03 08:07 AM
To: "Hartgen, David" <dthartge(a)email.uncc.edu>,
<ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
cc: <Elaine.Murakami(a)fhwa.dot.gov>
Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data,
2000
Dave: This has seen rather dramatic change nationally. Of the 13.2 million
new commuters more than half were intercounty, 6.7 meg; raising the share of
intercounty from to 23.9% to 26.7%. Some states have seen explosions in
this area. Ohio, Va. etc. A lot of this can be an accidental product of
geog. (East vs West States) but there is something else going on -- much of
it I believe is rural workers heading to the metro suburbs for work. Note W
Va had largest increase in trav times - that wasn't congestion in
Wheeling.Also think of the car plants in the south. I recall someone saying
that all but 3 of the 104 counties in Ky sent workers to the Georgetown car
plant. I intend to spend a lot of time on this in Commuting in America
III. I will look forward to your work - and steal from it shamelessly.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartgen, David" <dthartge(a)email.uncc.edu>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Cc: <Elaine.Murakami(a)fhwa.dot.gov>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
> Colleagues, Elaine Murakami at FHWA has suggested I contact you. I
> am working on a county-to-county work flow analysis for North Carolina's
100
> counties, and am interested to know if anyone is/has done something
similar
> for cities or for other states or US regions. The issues we are addressing
> are:
> 1. Has inter-county commuting increased as a share of trips, VMT, and fuel
> use since 1990?
> 2. What percent of state travel and fuel use is in intra- and inter-county
> commuting? Is it a declining or increasing share?
> My student (Ellen Cervera) has completed the first phase of her
> work, for 2000, and is beginning the 1990 analysis. Her problem involves
> computing, for all NC co-to-co flows (100*100), the % of vehicle trips
> (adjusted for carpooling), the % of VMT (using a distance matrix and 20 %
> road circuituity), and % of fuel use (using weighted fuel rates from Hy
> Statistics VM-1) that is inter-co versus intra-co; also these %'s as a
> function of total state use, and changes in these %'s from 1990 to 2000.
The
> effects are hypothesized to be compensating: that is, trips are getting
> longer and the % of travel that is inter-county is increasing, but fuel
use
> is declining per mile, so the magnitude of fuel use in inter-county may be
> stable or declining over time. My modeling system is TransDAD
> (http://www.caliper.com)
> Anyone working on a similar problem with the 2000 county-to-county
> data? We would appreciate receiving materials at this location or at fax
> 704-687-3442.
>
> Thanks
> Prof. David T. Hartgen
> UNC Charlotte
> 704-687-4308
The 2000 CTPP simply confirms what any 6 year old buckled into the back seat of a minivan can plainly see: Americans are being compelled to spend ever-greater amounts of time in cars, over longer distances. The reasons for this unsustainable trend, which are the resulting nexus of land use policy, transportation policy, societal and economic forces, have been well documented. Now that the data is in, what will we as planners do with it?:
a) Continue to recommend projects and policies that perpetuate the status quo trendline?
b) Develop tools that provide alternative choices?
You decide.
Stu Sirota
Parsons Brinckerhoff
Baltimore, Maryland
-----Original Message-----
From: William Knight [mailto:wknight(a)ccmpo.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:02 PM
To: 'ALAN E. PISARSKI'; 'Sam Granato'
Cc: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
This all is a familiar phenomenon in the Burlington, VT area. Housing in the county is sky rocketing in costs and people are moving out to adjacent and even further away. Commutes are getting longer.
William L Knight, Executive Director
Chittenden County Metropolitan Planning Organization
30 Kimball Avenue
South Burlington, VT 05403
(802) 660-4071, Ext. 228
(802) 660-4079 Fax
wknight(a)ccmpo.orgwww.ccmpo.org
-----Original Message-----
From: ALAN E. PISARSKI [mailto:pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Sam Granato
Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
All good thoughts. We saw this in New Hampshire also - the family home that is rich in sentiment but cant get much on the market vs a suburban house you cant afford. Answer: Stay and commute. Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Granato <mailto:Sam.Granato(a)dot.state.oh.us>
To: ALAN E. <mailto:pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com> PISARSKI
Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
I had already noted for Wheeling model development that commuting to counties in Pennsylvania doubled from 1990 to 2000! But to address the general point, seems there's two trends at work - in stagnant regional economies, workers try to avoid moving when by choice or force they take that more distant job (in addition to all the "rural community" issues, what kind of price would you get for your house in a stagnant or declining economy?). And in booming regions, the cost of buying a new house becomes the problem. Lack of space and "gov'mint regulation" are the usually-cited culprits, but maybe we've also gotten to the point where NIMBYism and the "growth controls" it leads to are having an impact in the imbalance between housing supply and demand.
Sam Granato
Ohio DOT, Office of Technical Services
1980 W. Broad Street, Columbus, OH 43223
Phone: 614-644-6796, Fax: 614-752-8646
"The solution to congestion is to put private business in charge of building roads and the government in charge of building cars." Will Rogers
"ALAN E. PISARSKI" <pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com>
Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
06/03/03 08:07 AM
To: "Hartgen, David" <dthartge(a)email.uncc.edu>, <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
cc: <Elaine.Murakami(a)fhwa.dot.gov>
Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
Dave: This has seen rather dramatic change nationally. Of the 13.2 million
new commuters more than half were intercounty, 6.7 meg; raising the share of
intercounty from to 23.9% to 26.7%. Some states have seen explosions in
this area. Ohio, Va. etc. A lot of this can be an accidental product of
geog. (East vs West States) but there is something else going on -- much of
it I believe is rural workers heading to the metro suburbs for work. Note W
Va had largest increase in trav times - that wasn't congestion in
Wheeling.Also think of the car plants in the south. I recall someone saying
that all but 3 of the 104 counties in Ky sent workers to the Georgetown car
plant. I intend to spend a lot of time on this in Commuting in America
III. I will look forward to your work - and steal from it shamelessly.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartgen, David" <dthartge(a)email.uncc.edu>
To: <ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Cc: <Elaine.Murakami(a)fhwa.dot.gov>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000
> Colleagues, Elaine Murakami at FHWA has suggested I contact you. I
> am working on a county-to-county work flow analysis for North Carolina's
100
> counties, and am interested to know if anyone is/has done something
similar
> for cities or for other states or US regions. The issues we are addressing
> are:
> 1. Has inter-county commuting increased as a share of trips, VMT, and fuel
> use since 1990?
> 2. What percent of state travel and fuel use is in intra- and inter-county
> commuting? Is it a declining or increasing share?
> My student (Ellen Cervera) has completed the first phase of her
> work, for 2000, and is beginning the 1990 analysis. Her problem involves
> computing, for all NC co-to-co flows (100*100), the % of vehicle trips
> (adjusted for carpooling), the % of VMT (using a distance matrix and 20 %
> road circuituity), and % of fuel use (using weighted fuel rates from Hy
> Statistics VM-1) that is inter-co versus intra-co; also these %'s as a
> function of total state use, and changes in these %'s from 1990 to 2000.
The
> effects are hypothesized to be compensating: that is, trips are getting
> longer and the % of travel that is inter-county is increasing, but fuel
use
> is declining per mile, so the magnitude of fuel use in inter-county may be
> stable or declining over time. My modeling system is TransDAD
> (http://www.caliper.com)
> Anyone working on a similar problem with the 2000 county-to-county
> data? We would appreciate receiving materials at this location or at fax
> 704-687-3442.
>
> Thanks
> Prof. David T. Hartgen
> UNC Charlotte
> 704-687-4308