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[CTPP] Fwd: Census Bureau News: National Day of Civic Hacking Results in New Web Applications Using American Community Survey Statistics

by Mara Kaminowitz

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *U.S. Census Bureau* Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 Subject: Census Bureau News: National Day of Civic Hacking Results in New Web Applications Using American Community Survey Statistics To: mkaminowitz(a)baltometro.org ** ** *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, JUNE 12, 2013* *CB13-TPS.56* *National Day of Civic Hacking Results in New Web Applications Using American Community Survey Statistics* More than 11,000 people across the country participated in the National Day of Civic Hacking on June 1-2, with many of them using the rich array of local statistics from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey to develop new online apps. During the event, software developers and entrepreneurs from across the country collaborated to invent and build solutions using publicly released data, code and technology to solve challenges relevant to communities. Census Bureau staff participated in 31 events throughout the country to help developers use American Community Survey statistics to build new apps. One app developed at the event creates heat maps that show American Community Survey statistics at the county level across the United States. More examples can be found on the Census Bureau’s Developer’s Forum<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…>in the Application Showcase. The event is in line with one of the main goals of the Digital Government Strategy, to create “open data” to allow the public to access government data. Through access to data sets in the Census Bureau’s application programming interface (API), these new applications use statistics to help communities with economic development issues or with disaster planning. “These new applications offer inspiring examples of the kind of innovative tools that can be created using statistics from the American Community Survey,” said Thomas Mesenbourg, the Census Bureau’s acting director. “By accessing our data through the API, developers have harnessed the power of these statistics to create practical new applications that will give communities greater insight when answering real-world questions.” The statistics were publicly available through the Census Bureau’s open API. Developers can access the API online and share ideas through the Census Bureau’s Developers Forum. The API is just one aspect of the Census Bureau’s digital transformation. The Census Bureau’s first mobile app, America’s Economy, was released last year and provides users with 16 economic indicators from the Census Bureau, Bureau of Economic Analysis and Bureau of Labor Statistics. -X- ------------------------------ [image: US Census Bureau]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> Questions? Contact Us<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> Explore and share the Census Bureau’s new interactive population clock<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> (http://go.usa.gov/TrdJ<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…><http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…>), now with real-time population projections and interactive data tools. STAY CONNECTED: [image: Visit us on Facebook]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> [image: Visit us on Twitter]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> [image: Visit us on YouTube]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> <http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> [image: Sign up for email updates]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> [image: Visit us on GovLoop]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> [image: Americas Economy Icon]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> SUBSCRIBER SERVICES: Manage Preferences<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> | Unsubscribe<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> | Help <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'support(a)govdelivery.com');> ------------------------------ This email was sent to mkaminowitz(a)baltometro.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mkaminowitz(a)baltometro.org');> by U.S. Census Bureau · 4600 Silver Hill Road · Washington, DC 20233 [image: Powered by GovDelivery]<http://links.govdelivery.com:80/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkP…> -- Mara Kaminowitz, GISP GIS Analyst ......................................................................... Baltimore Metropolitan Council Offices @ McHenry Row 1500 Whetstone Way Suite 300 Baltimore, MD 21230 410-732-0500 ext. 1030 mkaminowitz(a)baltometro.org www.baltometro.org

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[CTPP] Census Bureau News: Commuter-Adjusted Population Estimates: American Community Survey 2006-2010

by Ed Christopher

Attached is the press release on some newly released Census Tables that may be of interest regarding daytime populations. -- Ed Christopher 708-283-3534 (V) 708-574-8131 (cell) FHWA RC-TST-PLN 4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600 Matteson, IL 60443

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[CTPP] New Sustainable Communities Census Hot Report helps you assess your community's performance on sustain'y indicators

by Liang.Long.CTR＠dot.gov

Hi, All Ted Cochin from EPA Office of Sustainable Communities asked me to publicize their new HotReport. The Hotreport was funded by EPA and Cambridge Systematics was the contractor. The HotReport can be accessed from here: http://thedataweb.rm.census.gov/TheDataWeb_HotReport2/EPA2/EPA_HomePage2.hr… US EPA Smart Growth (@EPAsmartgrowth) tweeted at 1:11pm - 6 Jun 13: New Sustainable Communities Census Hot Report helps you assess your community's performance on sustain'y indicators: go.usa.gov/b9qe (https://twitter.com/EPAsmartgrowth/status/342690264273526785) CTPP Newsletter January 2013 issue also has an article introducing this HotReport http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census_issues/ctpp/status_report/sr010113.… Thanks, Liang Long

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Re: [CTPP] Means of Transportation Categories

by TMarchwinski＠njtransit.com

Jack- Can you send a letter or email to FTA with your comments. They are looking for support to forward to the Census Bureau. Ken Cervenka, who works for Jim Ryan is the contact. Thanks, Tom From: Dean, Jack [mailto:jdean(a)mtahq.org] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:40 PM To: Marchwinski, Tom W. (CPLNTWM); ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: Means of Transportation Categories Hi Tom, Sorry for the belated reply! I find myself pretty much in agreement with you as to the appropriate wording; and also, at least for this region, including light rail with streetcar and trolley seems the best choice if there can't be any change in the number of modes. Thanks for including us Jack Dean MTA Planning 347 Madison Ave, 10th Floor NY, NY 10017 t. 212-878-7191 f. 212-878-1025 From: TMarchwinski(a)njtransit.com<mailto:TMarchwinski(a)njtransit.com> [mailto:TMarchwinski(a)njtransit.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:49 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: RE: Means of Transportation Categories Ken- Thanks for sending me an update. Here are my views on this. I totally agree with the first two descriptions. Keeping light rail, streetcar or trolley together makes sense and puts light rail on the ACS survey, unlike the problems today as I had indicted earlier where I have seen in areas with new LRT service in New Jersey many respondents are checking "Other", because there is no Light Rail option. Trolley is just not significant enough to warrant a separate section, and in a few cases it integrates or operates with LRT. If a new trolley like in Washington DC is put in, you will be able to differentiate trolley since there are no other choices like that. Same with Rail: subway or elevated, this is OK. I do have a major problem with the last one, Rail: long distance commuter service. When I first read this, I though AMTRAK or a long distance train. Since the NY area probably has about 2/3 of the commuter rail ridership in the US, I think many people will think this refers to AMTRAK, and will not check this, and probably check "Other". This needs to be re-worded. Most commuter rail riders do not think of themselves as long distance. In fact, many of our commuter rail riders are relatively short distance, with average trip lengths of about 20-25 miles. I also think getting rid of the word railroad is a problem. In fact, both commuter railroad and true long distance or intercity rail is still an actual railroad with multiple cars pulled by an engine or self-propelled cars. I am going to send this to a few others in both New Jersey, New York and Conn. to see what they think of this, but I suspect they will have the same reaction. Here is an alternative wording, which is close to what you have but makes a difference: Rail: Commuter or long distance railroad or Rail: Commuter or long-distance railroad service. By putting "commuter" first, it is clear this is a commuter service, with distance not an issue, and long distance rail is secondary or another option. Having long distance first confuses the issue. Also, by putting the word "railroad" into the response, it is clear this is a railroad service, not something else. Also, keeping the word railroad links it to the previous description in the census going back to 1970, so people are clear this is a railroad service and historic data and meanings continue over time. I think this proposed change makes it clear that distance is not an issue, and commuter railroad or long distance railroad is the mode. Let me know what you and others think, but I think this relatively minor change in wording order and one word makes this clearer. Tom Marchwinski Sr. Director Forecasting and Research New Jersey Transit From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov<mailto:Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:00 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: [CTPP] ACS: Means of Transportation Categories Hello Tom and all, Agencies must send justification for proposed revisions or new content to OMB and the Census Bureau by June 14, 2013. The intent is for U.S. DOT (via BTS) to formally submit the "please include light rail" request. Based on various discussions that have taken place (particularly those on this listserv), here are the (current) proposed modifications to the three rail transit categories in the Means of Transportation Question 31 (with all other modal groups to be unchanged): __ Rail: light rail, streetcar, or trolley (a change from the current "Streetcar or trolley car") __ Rail: subway or elevated (a change from the current "Subway or elevated") __ Rail: long-distance commuter service (a change from the current "Railroad") Assuming OMB approves a "cognitive testing" program, the exact wording of whatever eventually goes "final" will of course depend on the test results. I sure don't want to stretch this out to the point of missing the June 14 deadline, but it may be useful to subject this to another round of public vetting on the CTPP listserv. So: what do you all think? Ken Cervenka FTA Office of Planning and Environment From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of TMarchwinski(a)njtransit.com<mailto:TMarchwinski(a)njtransit.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:38 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: Re: [CTPP] County Commuting Flows Penelope- I found this email from a few months ago, and would like to let you know that NJT uses CTPP 3 year data to show broad county to county flows for Trans-Hudson transit planning. We used the 2006-08 data to show trends since 2000 in where commuting to Manhattan and other key areas has changed. We also saw that there was a shift to bus and rail commuting, vs. auto for this market in most counties. The 3 year is helpful for understanding broad trends, and specific changes. I noticed with the 5 year flow data at the county level that we saw changes related to the Great Recession. Since the 5 year data has the 3 year data imbedded as part of the 5 year data, I have looked at the difference between the 5 year and 3 year data to surmise changes between 2008 and 2010. I know statistically this may not be totally accurate, but we have seen a drop in total work trips from some counties from the 3 year to the 5 year data, and some increases in others. The numbers made sense because close in, more urban counties still increased the number of work trips to Manhattan, while mostly further out areas which were hit hard in the recession by defaults, and aging population showed a decline compared to 3 year data, but still an increase compared to 2000. The new procedure to make CTPP continue as a research project is a good one. Also I am happy to see Light Rail will be tested for inclusion in the Census. I brought this up back in 2007/2008 with Elaine Murakami of FHWA who was supportive, but we could not get FTA interested. I had and extensive conversation and email exchange with FTA on this issue (Ken Cervanka), and was involved in an online debate on this. My understanding is that the census will not allow an increase in the number of modes, but will allow Light Rail to be added. The issue was how do you classify all of the other modes, and my point was that railroad should be changed to commuter or regional rail (including Intercity), then there was bus; Light rail , Trolley, or streetcar; subway or elevated; and then Ferry I believe. Can you tell me of the status of when Light Rail will be tested, and also how it will be shown, as a separate mode, or with trolley or streetcar (which is where it belongs in my opinion). Some of the federal types wanted streetcar as a separate mode, which I did not believe made sense given its small amount of ridership, and also the fact that its more like light rail and Light Rail is much bigger in usage. Thanks for any information you can provide. Thomas Marchwinski Senior Director, Forecasting and Research NJ Transit, Newark, NJ From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Weinberger, Penelope Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:54 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: Re: [CTPP] County Commuting Flows As Liang said, the next CTPP is due in mid 2013. It will be based on five year ACS from 2006 - 2010 and include small area data. In answer to the larger question; the CTPP program at AASHTO was recently transformed to an ongoing technical services program. As you rightly point out, this follows the change at CB to an ongoing survey methodology. The CTPP is historically user directed and wishes to continue to be so. So I have two things to throw out there: One, please share the value of the program with your decision makers - when we come for funding, help them get to yes! Two, please let me know how you have used the three year data and if it is useful to have along with the planned five year data - the difference between the sets is the three year is more frequent, while the five year covers all geography. Thanks! Penelope Z. Weinberger CTPP Program Manager AASHTO 202-624-3556 ctpp.transportation.org From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Estersohn Dan Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:55 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: [CTPP] County Commuting Flows Is there any information about production of the CTTP or the county-to-county commuting flows more than once every ten years? Since they are based on the annual ACS there is an opportunity for more frequent updates than in the past. What are the current plans? Dan Estersohn Senior Demographer [cid:image001.jpg(a)01CE62C5.FBA336A0] Arbitron Inc 9705 Patuxent Woods Drive Columbia, MD 21046 410-312-8434 Dan.Estersohn(a)Arbitron.com<mailto:Dan.Estersohn(a)Arbitron.com>

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[CTPP] ACS Place of Work Coding Concern

by Charles Baber

In our review of ACS PUMS, we have found what we think is a workplace coding problem and concerned that the coding error will be carried forward into the CTPP. The Census workplace coding problem was identified comparing change in employment estimates between 2000 and 2010 from BEA and BLS compared to Place of Work (POW) coding in Census long form/ACS over the same 10 year period. 2000-2010 BEA 2000-2010 BLS 2000 Census to 2010 ACS Baltimore City -13.4% -13.8% +3.9% Baltimore County +13.3% +2.2% It is important to understand that Baltimore City is an Independent City and is NOT included in Baltimore County. Baltimore City is a county-equivalent. We are wondering if other metropolitan areas are finding results using the ACS workplace coding that are divergent from other employment sources. We are wondering if our problem is mostly due to the city and county having the same name, or if there is some other issue. Detail results from the Baltimore MPO trend analysis follows. The Baltimore MSA in 2010 contained 2.7 million persons within six political subdivisions (five counties [Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford, and Howard] and one independent city [Baltimore City]). All six political subdivisions have a 2010 population in excess of 100,000, allowing for designation of Public Use Microdata Areas (PUMAs) within each political subdivision for the Baltimore MSA. Our concern in POW coding relates to Baltimore County and the independent City of Baltimore. (Baltimore City is NOT an incorporated City within Baltimore County. Residents of Baltimore City are NOT residents of Baltimore County. The independent City of Baltimore’s political status is equivalent to a county.) Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) nonfarm annual estimates for employment within Baltimore City was reported to have decreased 13.8% (408.4 to 352.0 thousand jobs) between 2000 and 2010. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) table CA25N was used to estimate employment within the Baltimore region’s six political subdivisions. BEA reported a -13.4% reduction in Baltimore City employment between 2000 and 2010. Job growth between 2000 and 2010 was estimated at 13.3% for Baltimore County. An analysis of the 2000 decennial Census long form and 2010 ACS POW coding report contradicting trends compared to those reported in the BEA and BLS estimates. Census 2000 to 2010 POW trend seems reasonable compared to the BEA trend for Anne Arundel, Carroll, Harford and Howard Counties. Baltimore County POW coding results in a 3.9% growth in Census reported primary job locations and Baltimore City Census POW coding results in a 2.2% growth in reported primary job locations. Our concern is that during the review of addresses that do not geocode automatically Baltimore City is receiving Baltimore County reported primary POW locations. We are hoping other urban area analysis of Census POW coding can help focus further analysis. We feel there is an allocation/gecoding issue but are unsure if the error is related to Baltimore City’s status as an independent city or confusion in having a county and city with the same name. Looking forward to hearing from others on analysis of POW coding. Charles M. Baber Principal Transportation Planner Baltimore Metropolitan Council Offices @ McHenry Row 1500 Whetstone Way, Suite 300 Baltimore MD 21230 410-732-0500 Ext. 1056 www.baltometro.org *Confidentiality Statement* This message may contain legally privileged and confidential information that is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient, taking any action based on the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. Please immediately notify the sender if you have received this message in error.

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[CTPP] Applications Conference Evaluation

by Andrew Rohne

I apologize for sending this out to lists that probably have a lot of people that did not attend the conference. However, for those that DID attend, if you haven't completed an evaluation of the conference, we'd really appreciate your feedback. Please go to the conference website at http://www.trbappcon.org/survey.aspx and let us know how we can make the next conference better and what we're doing well (so we can keep doing it). We do read all of these and have made changes in each conference based on these evaluations. Thanks! Andrew Rohne TRB Planning Applications Committee Webmaster -- Andrew S. Rohne Transportation Modeling Manager Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Regional Council of Governments P: 513.621.6300 x115 * arohne(a)oki.org<mailto:arohne(a)oki.org> * @okiAndrew<http://twitter.com/okiAndrew> [cid:image001.png(a)01CE14FA.9E861550] <http://www.oki.org/> [cid:image002.png(a)01CE14FA.9E861550]<http://www.facebook.com/okiregional> [cid:image003.png(a)01CE14FA.9E861550] <http://www.twitter.com/okircog> [cid:image004.png(a)01CE14FA.9E861550] <http://www.youtube.com/okircog>

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Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?

by Rob Case

See ODU analysis of special NHTS add-on for Virginia universities https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5YbcCQfcxM4TE1VRnNKdlVybzA From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net>] On Behalf Of hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:43 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? I have not checked other campus area population counted by census 2010 but this number is very large (and hope not double counted by their parents), 10,688. And there are only 3 houses on the campus area based on the census block result, I know: 1 president's house, 1 chapel , and... don't know the 3rd but there are 25 dorms not counted. And the house location is not right, or a block with population data but no house... as my boss said, a lot of people live at MSU tunnel. If attachment is not allowed: zip code 48825, MSU campus area on census 2010, total block population: 10688, number of houses:3 .. and based on campus data students live on campus (residence hall) is about 15000 (the nation's largest single-campus residence hall system !) Any comments ? Hary _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news -- Patricia C. (Patty) Becker APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC) 28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034 office: 248-354-6520 home:248-355-2428 pbecker(a)umich.edu<mailto:pbecker(a)umich.edu>

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Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?

by hprawiranata mitcrpc.org

Everyone, thank you for your reply. Like I said, we have treated MSU campus differently (special generators), we have all data on students and faculties and we have mapped their movements too (student origin and class location and time, faculties/staff home addresses to buildings), parking lots, commuter lots, and student parking permits. I have not looked into group quarters data, just downloaded it. CB put this number not in the correct block group, some block groups are correct, 3 block groups covered student residences, but others are a mixed between city housings with student housings. Big campus block group (I aggregated) has 16 houses and 861 people, found out a block of resident hall with population 818 slipped into this block group. I'm asking this question to know how many people encounters funny number on census data and probably expand this issue to the implications (can ~10k population be considered as a constant in population projection (i think so)?, business/employment (student employment) or traffic impact affected by this population... for 3 months it disappears.. Hary On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Kevin Byrnes <byrnes(a)gwregion.org> wrote: > Block-level data of group qrtrs pop by type is available from the 2010 > Census Advance Group Quarters Summary File (see: > http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/doc/gqsf.pdf) **** > > ** ** > > Since many college students have vehicles parked near their dorms (e.g. at > Michigan State Univ, my alma mater) college student vehicle trips should be > part of the travel demand analysis.**** > > ** ** > > *Kevin F. Byrnes, AICP* > > Director of Regional Planning & Regional Demographer**** > > George Washington Regional Commission (GWRC)**** > > 406 Princess Anne St**** > > Fredericksburg VA 22401**** > > Ph (540) 373-2890 (ext 18)**** > > Fax (540) 899-4808**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto: > ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] *On Behalf Of *Patricia Becker > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:19 PM > *To:* ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net > *Subject:* Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?**** > > ** ** > > You get population but no housing when the entire population is in group > quarters. Leave the GQ out of the vehicles per household calculation, > although it is definitely possible that people in college GQ have vehicles. > > Since you're in Michigan, if you'd like me to help you some more, give me > a call at 248-354-6520. > > Patty Becker**** > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM, hprawiranata mitcrpc.org < > hprawiranata(a)mitcrpc.org> wrote:**** > > If you see on my screenshot (table on the right), how can CB put > population number but no houses ? On residential areas I checked randomly > (20-30 samples), the CB block level data is correct or close, census block > said 12 houses and my parcel data shows the same number.**** > > ** ** > > I have to create new aggregate based on zip from block data for > calculating number of vehicle per household (I got sanitized (name and > address removed) vehicle registrations only zip for location). University, > Colleges are not included (special generators). I just found out strange > campus population at block level and I'm wondering the implications.**** > > ** ** > > For block group (wide campus area), it does not include block with high > population (dorms) and it is wrong. **** > > ** ** > > Hary**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov> wrote:**** > > Hary – do you think that the Census Bureau put the 25 dormitories in the > wrong location? Did you look at nearby blocks and block groups?**** > > **** > > Elaine Murakami**** > > 206-220-4460**** > > **** > > *From:* ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto: > ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] *On Behalf Of *hprawiranata mitcrpc.org > *Sent:* Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:43 PM > *To:* ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net > *Subject:* [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?**** > > **** > > I have not checked other campus area population counted by census 2010 but > this number is very large (and hope not double counted by their parents), > 10,688.**** > > **** > > And there are only 3 houses on the campus area based on the census block > result, I know: 1 president's house, 1 chapel , and... don't know the 3rd > but there are 25 dorms not counted. And the house location is not right, or > a block with population data but no house... as my boss said, a lot of > people live at MSU tunnel.**** > > **** > > If attachment is not allowed: zip code 48825, MSU campus area on census > 2010, total block population: 10688, number of houses:3 .. and based on > campus data students live on campus (residence hall) is about 15000 (the > nation’s largest single-campus residence hall system !)**** > > **** > > Any comments ?**** > > **** > > Hary**** > > **** > > **** > > > _______________________________________________ > ctpp-news mailing list > ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net > http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news**** > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > ctpp-news mailing list > ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net > http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news**** > > > > > -- **** > > Patricia C. (Patty) Becker > APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC) > 28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034 > office: 248-354-6520 > home:248-355-2428 > pbecker(a)umich.edu **** > > _______________________________________________ > ctpp-news mailing list > ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net > http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news > >

12 years, 2 months

Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?

by John Hodges-Copple

Universities can usually provide you with a count of how many on-campus students in group quarters have vehicles, via their permit issuances. Many on-campus students do have vehicles depending on the university. John Hodges-Copple Director of Regional Planning Triangle J Council of Governments PO Box 12276 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 919-558-9320 mailto:johnhc(a)tjcog.org / Home - TJCOG<http://www.tjcog.org/> Street Address: 4307 Emperor Blvd. Durham, NC 27703 From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Patricia Becker Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:19 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? You get population but no housing when the entire population is in group quarters. Leave the GQ out of the vehicles per household calculation, although it is definitely possible that people in college GQ have vehicles. Since you're in Michigan, if you'd like me to help you some more, give me a call at 248-354-6520. Patty Becker On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM, hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> <hprawiranata(a)mitcrpc.org<mailto:hprawiranata(a)mitcrpc.org>> wrote: If you see on my screenshot (table on the right), how can CB put population number but no houses ? On residential areas I checked randomly (20-30 samples), the CB block level data is correct or close, census block said 12 houses and my parcel data shows the same number. I have to create new aggregate based on zip from block data for calculating number of vehicle per household (I got sanitized (name and address removed) vehicle registrations only zip for location). University, Colleges are not included (special generators). I just found out strange campus population at block level and I'm wondering the implications. For block group (wide campus area), it does not include block with high population (dorms) and it is wrong. Hary On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov<mailto:Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov>> wrote: Hary - do you think that the Census Bureau put the 25 dormitories in the wrong location? Did you look at nearby blocks and block groups? Elaine Murakami 206-220-4460<tel:206-220-4460> From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net>] On Behalf Of hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:43 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? I have not checked other campus area population counted by census 2010 but this number is very large (and hope not double counted by their parents), 10,688. And there are only 3 houses on the campus area based on the census block result, I know: 1 president's house, 1 chapel , and... don't know the 3rd but there are 25 dorms not counted. And the house location is not right, or a block with population data but no house... as my boss said, a lot of people live at MSU tunnel. If attachment is not allowed: zip code 48825, MSU campus area on census 2010, total block population: 10688, number of houses:3 .. and based on campus data students live on campus (residence hall) is about 15000 (the nation's largest single-campus residence hall system !) Any comments ? Hary _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news -- Patricia C. (Patty) Becker APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC) 28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034 office: 248-354-6520 home:248-355-2428 pbecker(a)umich.edu<mailto:pbecker(a)umich.edu> E-Mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Act and may be disclosed to third parties unless made confidential under applicable law.

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Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?

by Kevin Byrnes

Block-level data of group qrtrs pop by type is available from the 2010 Census Advance Group Quarters Summary File (see: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/doc/gqsf.pdf) Since many college students have vehicles parked near their dorms (e.g. at Michigan State Univ, my alma mater) college student vehicle trips should be part of the travel demand analysis. Kevin F. Byrnes, AICP Director of Regional Planning & Regional Demographer George Washington Regional Commission (GWRC) 406 Princess Anne St Fredericksburg VA 22401 Ph (540) 373-2890 (ext 18) Fax (540) 899-4808 From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Patricia Becker Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:19 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? You get population but no housing when the entire population is in group quarters. Leave the GQ out of the vehicles per household calculation, although it is definitely possible that people in college GQ have vehicles. Since you're in Michigan, if you'd like me to help you some more, give me a call at 248-354-6520. Patty Becker On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM, hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> <hprawiranata(a)mitcrpc.org<mailto:hprawiranata(a)mitcrpc.org>> wrote: If you see on my screenshot (table on the right), how can CB put population number but no houses ? On residential areas I checked randomly (20-30 samples), the CB block level data is correct or close, census block said 12 houses and my parcel data shows the same number. I have to create new aggregate based on zip from block data for calculating number of vehicle per household (I got sanitized (name and address removed) vehicle registrations only zip for location). University, Colleges are not included (special generators). I just found out strange campus population at block level and I'm wondering the implications. For block group (wide campus area), it does not include block with high population (dorms) and it is wrong. Hary On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, <Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov<mailto:Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov>> wrote: Hary - do you think that the Census Bureau put the 25 dormitories in the wrong location? Did you look at nearby blocks and block groups? Elaine Murakami 206-220-4460<tel:206-220-4460> From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net>] On Behalf Of hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:43 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net> Subject: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? I have not checked other campus area population counted by census 2010 but this number is very large (and hope not double counted by their parents), 10,688. And there are only 3 houses on the campus area based on the census block result, I know: 1 president's house, 1 chapel , and... don't know the 3rd but there are 25 dorms not counted. And the house location is not right, or a block with population data but no house... as my boss said, a lot of people live at MSU tunnel. If attachment is not allowed: zip code 48825, MSU campus area on census 2010, total block population: 10688, number of houses:3 .. and based on campus data students live on campus (residence hall) is about 15000 (the nation's largest single-campus residence hall system !) Any comments ? Hary _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news -- Patricia C. (Patty) Becker APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC) 28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034 office: 248-354-6520 home:248-355-2428 pbecker(a)umich.edu<mailto:pbecker(a)umich.edu>

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