I just wanted to chime in with this discussion. In my region (Little Rock AR
MSA) it's clear that the city estimates are heavily driven by census county
estimates. The estimates for the largest five cities in our central county
all show 0.9% growth 2010-2011. This is absurd; these five cities varied in
the 2000-2010 interval between outright decline in one case and 63 percent
growth in another. The building permits and all other local evidence
suggests that they are not all growing at 0.9 percent in unison.
Therefore I express my agreement that there's something very wrong with the
place/MCD estimates released on July 1. Since these estimates are
fundamentally misleading, they are worse than nothing at all.
Jonathan Lupton
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That is a crucial question that needs to be answered.
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Patty Becker <pbecker(a)umich.edu> wrote:
Gee, I hope not. But it's very unclear what's going on. Loud protests might
help.
At 05:42 PM 7/2/2012, wendell cox wrote:
Will this be their approach in future year estimates as well?
Best regards
Wendell Cox
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Patty Becker <pbecker(a)umich.edu> wrote:
The bottom line here is that the Census Bureau has abandoned its previous
methods for calculating the subcounty estimates. For 2011, they basically
carried the county % change in household population down to the sub-county
units (MCDs and places), apparently holding the GQ pop count the same as the
2010 count (most of the time).
In my personal view, coming from a strong MCD state, it would have been
better if they had just not done 2011 estimates at all.
Patty Becker
At 08:57 AM 7/2/2012, Ed Christopher wrote:
This is an interesting article Wendell Cox sent me from a friend of
friend. We all remember when the Census Bureau changed from using
county based estimates to using sub-county estimates in 2009 which are
then used to factor and weight the ACS. I had thought the process of
going from a county to a sub-county was a little more sophisticated but
maybe its not.
http://www.urbanophile.com/2012/06/30/misreferencing-misoverestimated-popula
tion-by-chris-briem/
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This is an interesting article Wendell Cox sent me from a friend of
friend. We all remember when the Census Bureau changed from using
county based estimates to using sub-county estimates in 2009 which are
then used to factor and weight the ACS. I had thought the process of
going from a county to a sub-county was a little more sophisticated but
maybe its not.
http://www.urbanophile.com/2012/06/30/misreferencing-misoverestimated-popul…
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This came across the census news today. This could be the start of
something big.
Web Transformation
Census Application Programming Interface (API) — The Census Bureau is
releasing its first ever API. This online service provides the building
blocks for developers to design online and mobile apps, such as
interactive maps, charts and databases, using a variety of Census Bureau
statistics. The API provides statistics down to the neighborhood level
(tracts and block groups) from the 2010 Census Summary File 1 and the
2006-2010 American Community Survey. With these two datasets available
in the form of an API, database editors and other developers have easier
access to a wide variety of timely, localized information, including
population totals, age, sex, race, Hispanic origin, home ownership,
education, income, employment, commuting and occupation. The API is
currently undergoing beta testing and is scheduled for public release in
July. More information about the API can be found at
<http://www.census.gov/developers/>.
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Hi All,
CTPP training will be offered in Chicago on August 6th and 7th 2012.
Registration details will be available after July 15th, but it will be
free and open to transportation planners and data users. Registration
will be limited.
CTPP training is a day and a half of data, data issues, census, CTPP and
hands on training and work with the data and CTPP products. You will
gain an in depth understanding of how and when to use the data set and
software, along with a deep knowledge of the pitfalls and advantages.
A laptop with internet access (to available wifi) and a CD reader is
recommended. The training will be from 12 - 4:30 on Monday and 8:30 -
4:00 on Tuesday.
Penelope Weinberger
CTPP Program Manager
AASHTO
202-624-3556
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/default.aspx
<http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/default.aspx>
It's just as bad to not make a plan as to blindly follow the one you
already have.
http://nhts.ornl.gov/det/ Data Visualization Prototypes from Oak Ridge National Labs, for Federal Highway Administration
I don't know how long these tools have been available on the NHTS website, but I found them a couple of weeks ago. I thought I would share the link because these ideas might be useful for :
1. People who are working on the Commuting in America project
2. People who have their own regional or statewide household survey and plan for interactive web-based data access tools
If you have questions about NHTS: a contact list is available here: http://nhts.ornl.gov/contactUs.shtml
If you have questions about the data visualization prototype, please contact Dr. Ho-Ling Hwang at hwanghl(a)ornl.gov<mailto:hwanghl(a)ornl.gov>
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
206-220-4460 (in Seattle)
NTD recently released their guidelines, their Allocation of NTD Data/2010 Census form letter, and 2 spreadsheets showing the urbanized areas in the US and their corresponding populations. These are the UZAs and population that must be used. If your transit coverage also includes areas outside of these UZAs, then there's accommodation for that as well.
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1. Re: NTD Urbanized Area (Putta, Viplava)
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From: "Putta, Viplava" <vputta(a)incog.org>
Subject: Re: [CTPP] NTD Urbanized Area
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I may have missed it if this faq crossed the list already --
FAQ @ FHWA:
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census_issues/urbanized_areas_and_mpo_tma/…
And a presentation:
http://councilmeetings.metc.state.mn.us/Transportation/2012/0611/UA_overvie…
Just to summarize some key areas (Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect/plain wrong):
? MPOs will locally adjust the UZA and States will get those approved by the FHWA. Maps showing those boundaries must go to FHWA with letters from MPO and the Governor. Deadline? Summer of 2013?
? FHWA would require States to upload these shape files: Deadline, June 2014. Is it the same deadline to submit Functional Classification??
? The NEW Adjusted UZA boundary will be used to change the "rural" designation to "urban" for HPMS purpose and Functional Class purpose.
? The new Adjusted UZA boundary will be used to provide outdoor advertising control.
? The impact of adjusted UZA boundary will be minimal on Apportionment formula (from change in rural to urban classification of minor collectors) and & it is NOT required to adjust the UZA boundary, unless the MPO or the State wants to.
? Distribution of STP funds guarantee that a minimum of 110% of the amount of funds for Federal Aid Secondary system must be spent in rural areas. A rural area is defined as the area outside the Adjusted UZA. State can exclude this FAUA (Adjusted Urbanized Area) from spending its monies that is allocated for rural roadways.
? FTA and FHWA will both use the census defined UZA population/density data for FY2013 (not the adjusted UZA).
Viplav Putta
Manager, Transportation Planning & Programs INCOG Tulsa, Oklahoma
918.579.9421
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 10:10 AM
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Cc: Charles.Goodman(a)dot.gov
Subject: Re: [CTPP] NTD Urbanized Area
Still an unclear answer; but there will be a free webinar on June 28th from NTI.
Earl T. Haugen
Executive Director
GF-EGF MPO
701-746-2660
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Subject: RE: [CTPP] NTD Urbanized Area
The Census 2010 New Urban areas are already available to download from the Census Bureau TIGER website. You will need to select "Urban Areas" in the drop down arrow list.
http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/geo/shapefiles2010/main
FTA's Urbanized Area Formula program can be found in this website. FTA will use Census released its 2010 Urbanized Area (UZA) designations and accompanying population and population density data for the formula apportionments beginning in Fiscal Year 2013.
http://www.fta.dot.gov/grants/12853_12408.html
The FHWA HEPGIS website is being updated. If you go to this page, select ?new HEPGIS (Beta)? in RED in the upper right corner, then select the tab that says ?MPO Information?. This includes the 2010 Census urbanized area boundaries.
http://hepgis.fhwa.dot.gov/hepgis_v2/GeneralInfo/Map.aspx
We have forwarded your query to Charlie Goodman at FTA (and have included him in this email chain as well).
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
206-220-4460 (in Seattle)
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Earl Haugen
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 11:41 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Subject: [CTPP] NTD Urbanized Area
beginning of an email from NTD regarding transit operators and 2010 urbanized areas:
As most of you already know, the US Census Bureau has recently announced a new set of Urbanized Areas based on the results of the 2010 Decennial Census. Additionally, FTA is required by law to use these new Urbanized Areas for the Fiscal Year 2013 Apportionment, which will be based on NTD Report Year 2011 Data. We are expecting that the Census Bureau will very soon be releasing the final Urbanized Area Boundary maps from the 2010 Census. This e-mail is to provide you with additional information on how that process will work.
Upon release the Census Boundary maps for the 2010 Census, each of you must identify which Urbanized Area (UZA) or Areas are served by your transit system. In addition, you will need to identify whether your transit systems services any rural or non-urbanized areas. An area is served by your transit system if you pick up passengers in that area. (Note: Some demand response systems allow passengers to travel to a particular location, but do not allow trip originations in that area. In this case, do not list these destinations as ?served? by your transit system.) Please note that you must identify all areas served by your system, regardless of whether or not you plan to allocate service data to those areas.
Is this the same as the already released Census urbanized areas (what is new from what has already been released?) Can we submit our Federal Aid Adjusted Urban Area instead?
Or just stick to a Census define boundary of urbanized.
Thanks
Earl T. Haugen
Executive Director
GF-EGF MPO
701-746-2660
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From: Ed Christopher <edc(a)berwyned.com<mailto:edc(a)berwyned.com>>
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [CTPP] Urban Area Webinar
Here is the link. I just tried it so it is working. Again, make sure that you are entering the whole link.
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.a…
James Greenstreet wrote:
> I have tried repeatedly, and cannot get this link to work. Please
> re-send the full link out to us.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Greenstreet
> Kankakee County Planning Department
>
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> To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net>
> Subject: [CTPP] Urban Area Webinar
>
> On March 27, 2012 the Census Bureau released the list of new Urbanized
> Areas and Urban Clusters. For transportation related activities these
> boundaries have broad and far reaching affects. Recognizing that it
> is impossible to address each individual situation and question
> separately, staff from the Federal Highway Administration. Federal
> Transit Administration, Census Bureau and others will conduct a 2-hour
> webinar on Boundary Issues and Transportation.
>
> Participants in the webinar can expect to learn about the various
> Transportation related boundaries, where and how they interact with
> the federal programs and the steps that state and local agencies need
> to take to address the boundary related requirements. Time will be
> allowed for questions and discussion, and additional resources will
> also be made available for downloading.
>
> If you are interested in boundaries from a transportation perspective,
> have a particular question or need to learn about them, this webinar is for you.
> To make sure your questions get addressed you can send it send them to
> ed.christopher(a)dot.gov<mailto:ed.christopher(a)dot.gov> up to the close
> of business the day before the before the webinar, otherwise they will
> be handled on a first come basis during the webinar.
>
> Space for the webinar is currently limited to 350 connections and
> registration is mandatory, but free. Folks who can share one
> connection in a conference room setting are encouraged to do so. The
> webinar will be recorded with closed captioning. Questions discussed
> during the webinar will be used to update the Frequently Asked
> Questions that FHWA maintains on the subject. The FAQ can be found at
> http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census_issues/urbanized_areas_and_mpo
> _tma/f
> aq/
>
> The webinar will be
> Friday, April 27, 2012 from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM (Eastern Time) It is
> open to everyone.
> Register by Clicking on the link below.
> https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_
> reg.as
> px?webconfid=24316
>
>
> --
> Ed Christopher
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On March 27, 2012 the Census Bureau released the list of new Urbanized
Areas and Urban Clusters. For transportation related activities these
boundaries have broad and far reaching affects. Recognizing that it is
impossible to address each individual situation and question separately,
staff from the Federal Highway Administration. Federal Transit
Administration, Census Bureau and others will conduct a 2-hour webinar on
Boundary Issues and Transportation.
Participants in the webinar can expect to learn about the various
Transportation related boundaries, where and how they interact with the
federal programs and the steps that state and local agencies need to take
to address the boundary related requirements. Time will be allowed for
questions and discussion, and additional resources will also be made
available for downloading.
If you are interested in boundaries from a transportation perspective,
have a particular question or need to learn about them, this webinar is
for you. To make sure your questions get addressed you can send it send
them to ed.christopher(a)dot.gov up to the close of business the day before
the before the webinar, otherwise they will be handled on a first come
basis during the webinar.
Space for the webinar is currently limited to 350 connections and
registration is mandatory, but free. Folks who can share one connection
in a conference room setting are encouraged to do so. The webinar will be
recorded with closed captioning. Questions discussed during the webinar
will be used to update the Frequently Asked Questions that FHWA maintains
on the subject. The FAQ can be found at
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census_issues/urbanized_areas_and_mpo_tma/…
The webinar will be
Friday, April 27, 2012 from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM (Eastern Time) It is open
to everyone.
Register by Clicking on the link below.
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.a…
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FHWA Resource Center Planning Team
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Matteson, IL 60443
708-283-3534 (V)
708-574-8131 (C)
Here's the latest update on the Congressional ACS hearing...
If any of our CTPP friends attend or sent in testimony and want to
report back I am sure those on this listserve would be interested in
hearing from you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Lowenthal [mailto:terriann2k(a)aol.com]
Good afternoon, Census Project stakeholders.
Just a reminder that the congressional Joint Economic Committee will
hold a hearing tomorrow (June 19) at 2:30PM to review the economic
consequences of eliminating the Census Bureau's American Community
Survey and other federal surveys (such as the quinquennial Economic
Census). The Census Project encourages stakeholders in the Washington,
DC area to attend this hearing in person, to demonstrate strong interest
in and support for the ACS and other core Census Bureau programs. See
the link on my Facebook page for more details about the hearing.
However, if you are unable to attend, the committee will web case the
hearing. Here's the link (to the best of our knowledge ... if it
doesn't work, please go to the Joint Economic Committee home page!):
http://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=831b…
Also, FYI, Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), who is presiding over the JEC
hearing, will hold a short press conference at noon tomorrow at the
House press "Triangle," to call more attention to the serious
consequences of the House vote to eliminate the ACS and to encourage
cooler heads to prevail. In addition to Rep. Maloney and a few other
members of Congress, Wade Henderson (President/CEO of the Leadership
Conference on Civil and Human Rights) and senior representatives from
the National Association of Realtors and National Electrical
Manufacturers Association will speak.
For those of you who don't follow the legislative agenda closely, there
is still no word on when the U.S. Senate will consider the FY13
Commerce, Justice, and Science Appropriations bill. Due to a whole
range of election year politics, it might not before the election.
However, at some point before this Congress adjourns, lawmakers must
agree on a funding bill for the Census Bureau for fiscal year 2013, and
they must resolve the issues of ACS funding, voluntary versus mandatory
ACS response, and adequate funding for 2020 Census planning and the 2012
Economic Census. So we must use the time now to continue educating all
lawmakers (both chambers, both parties!) about the importance of the ACS
and the serious policy implications of eliminating the survey or making
response voluntary.
Thanks for your continued support and efforts. We will keep you posted!
Terri Ann Lowenthal
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I will be out of the office starting 06/15/2012 and will not return until
06/29/2012.
Andrew Chin will be acting Branch Chief from June 18 through 21. Ravinder
Singh will be acting Branch Chief on June 22. Derek Man will be acting
Branch Chief June 25 and 26. David Lea will be acting Branch Chief June 27
through 29.